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How do the 6 friends photos at the top of Facebook Timeline get choosen?

Why do certain friends seem to show up as one of the the six photos in the small friends list photo box at the top of Facebook Timeline? Are these the 6 friends people who have visited your profile recently or have been online recently? What is the reason for only seeing certain friends pictures in this friends box?


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I AGREE with the 6 box theory above ... It definitely has something to do with YOU viewing their PROFILE . HOWEVER , when you click on your friends' list on timeline on the ride side , the 8 people that you see there are THOSE who recently viewed your profile .. and even when you click on SEE ALL , the top 5 rows are friends who viewed your profile because there are some friends who keep consistently showing on my top 15 friends and I dont view their profile and interact with them at all ... the 6 friends box on top though has something to do with you viewing their profile.

Has ANYONE got the same experience with the top 5 rows of friends when you see your friends' list on timeline ??
Jun 25th, 2012 at 5:19 PM
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Not sure.

All I know is that I've noticed for the past week or two, my top 8 and top 15 friends change very often, and I have like at least 3 different sets of top 8 that cycles throughout the day. For the most part, my top 8 and top 15 have been pretty static, until 2 weeks ago, I started noticing how sporadic it started becoming... Especially this week.

In the past couple of days, I've liked/commented at least 6 people. Hours later, they ALL end up showing either on my top 8 or top 15(via friends list) or both! I honestly do not know what to think of this. I don't know if they automatically viewed back my profie or not. It really could be either just my simple interaction with them, or there's with mine, or it could be mutual. Though I'm getting some people I haven't interacted(mainly in the form of liking/commenting a status. Though for some of them, occasionally view via ticker or their profile) for weeks or months, for a while and they randomly show up in my top 8 sometimes. –  nameless  Jun 25th, 2012 at 11:22 PM
For top 8 at least, all I know is that its interaction based.. It's mostly people i've interacted with in the past. Sometimes I wonder though if FB puts people in our top 8 that we haven't talked to in a while, to suggest us to talk to them again... –  nameless  Jun 25th, 2012 at 11:24 PM
In addition, I seem to have like 2 different sets of top 15, with the only differences being those 6 people. –  nameless  Jun 26th, 2012 at 3:33 AM


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@nameless

my top 8 just changed for what you said some weeks ago.

my crush is now on the position 8. That's the only fixed position, I believe. The other positions are fixed random friends that change position everytime i refresh.

I don't know how it works yet.

My crush is still my number 1 on keesh list, but when i put him under acquaintance he's replaced for the number 5 on the keesh list who's a friend i interact quite a lot through events, photos tagged together and sometimes messages (#2,#3 and #4 are family and i rarely or never interact with them). I haven't the chance to try any further experiences because I've been a bit busy with the faculty...

I only noticed another thing:

when I view my timeine as my crush, he gets replaced by one of our mutual friends (which are only 7) and after refreshing the mutual friend never changes from the 8th position.

When I view his timeline, his top friends 8th position is also a mutual friend of ours with who I know he never interacts with, so I believe there's a chance I might be in his 8th position too.

Has anyone else noticed this too?
Jun 26th, 2012 at 9:49 PM
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Yeah, I remember you(or Tiff?) mentioning about top 8 changing a lot a while back.

Currently today, I have 2 different sets of top 8 and top 15(my friends list). ***For my top  8 lists, My crush is in an unfixed position in one of the sets, while my #2 keesh list(who I message back occasionally) is in the #8 fixed position.  However, **my 2nd set of my  top 8 list, has no fixed positions in the top 8 at all, and my #2 person on the keesh list is on this set as well.

Oh, and my crush doesn't have timeline yet, and we don't have mutual friends. She's still #1, though the number has been dropping down steadily.

And yet again, it seems like any person I comment/like on their status, they end up showing up on my top 8 and keesh list about a few hours to a day later. I really don't know what this means.. I think 50% chance its one sided interactio by me, or 50% chance mutual. This is much more noticeable in my friends list in my top 15 friends.

And then there are other people that show up on my top 8 occasionally, that I haven't interacted with for a while.

In addition, I've been viewing my crush's page lately (past week or two) a couple times a day, and she's been showing up in my top 8 for the past week or two. Sometimes in the fixed position in #8 or random, but more likely random now.

I'm gonna try and not look at my crush's fb page anymore for a while, but her bday is coming up a week after 4th of July. I'm gonna wish her happy bday for the sake of testing if she graduates from her rank of 6-13 to somewhere in the top 5 rows on my friends list. –  nameless  Jun 26th, 2012 at 11:24 PM


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Hmm...I've been reading and re-reading these posts trying to make sense of all this. It seems Facebook is succeeding in driving us nuts. I did a very short simple "experiment" of recording who showed up in my 6box and 8box throughout a few hours. And these are some of the observations and conclusions I arrived to.

The people in the 6box rotated between about 25-30 people. Some of these people I have interacted with recently, some I have not interacted with at all. Out of habit, I check my boyfriend's profile...a lot (whatever) and he hardly shows up in my 6box. Not only do I view his profile frequently, I just posted a bunch of photos of us together and we've had several check-ins together all within the past 5 days. And yet, he still does not appear on my 6box or even my 8box for that matter. This completely contradicts what several people have mentioned above about the 6box being dependent on your profile viewing habits.

However, everything seems to be contradictory. Of the 25-30 people that rotate within the 6box very few of them were people I have "stalked" recently. The people I have stalked were an ex-boyfriend, an acquaintance who just got married and my boyfriend now. Their 6box appearance counts in relation to one another were in that order. Well more specifically, my ex appeared the most and the person who just got married (a girl I knew in high school with whom I have no interacted it whatsoever in the past couple years) and my current boyfriend (who I check regularly and are tagged in recent photos and check-ins with) have the same amount of appearances in my 6box.

What?! That makes no sense whatsoever. My ex, I checked a couple of times recently, but still I check my boyfriend's profile much more. Why does the ex outnumber the current? My guess is that, as someone mentioned, Facebook likes to remind us of people we used to interact with a lot and don't anymore, if it has been prompted by recent profile views or small interactions (i.e. a poke if anyone even does that anymore). To Facebook, my boyfriend and I are obviously interacting so it doesn't need to push him into my view as much.

I think herein lies one of the explanations to who you see in your 6box. Facebook's goal is as someone else mentioned to connect friends or to find friends or reconnect lost friends. Some people that have high appearance counts in my 6box are people who have interacted with me recently (liked a photo) but I have not had any interaction with them in almost two years. One of these people is a guy I dated a couple years ago. Again, the explanation is that he was someone I used to interact with a lot and now don't. Facebook sees an opportunity to "reconnect" us. For him, he interacted with me, but for the girl who just go married, I looked at her profile once. Just once. They both showed up even though the circumstances were different. So for example, he "liked" my photo and that was our only interaction since 2 years ago. But since we used to be more interactive, Facebook weighed his "like" a little heavier. With this girl, I only looked through her pictures once have never interacted on Facebook, but we have a lot of mutual friends and went to the same high school so Facebook may assume she could be someone I'd reconnect with. Different things, carry different weights and it all depends on your connections with that particular person. (This is why algorithms are so complicated!)

Without getting into the details of why the people that show up in my 6box do so, it seems that there is always a clear reason why someone is appearing in your 6box. And I do not believe it is only an indication of who is viewing your profile, instead it's more reflective of who Facebook thinks you might be interested in interacting more with. For example, one of my boyfriends friends has appeared in my 6box several times. And yes, more than him. This friend and I have had zero interaction. Nothing. Why does he show up? Because he and my boyfriend interact regularly on Facebook and since Facebook sees how connected my boyfriend and I are, it "pushes" (so to speak) this person into my view by putting them in my 6box.

One girl had some of the highest 6box appearance counts and I have not had any interaction with her in months. But, a few months ago we were tagged together in probably 50+ pictures together. AND this girl used to date my boyfriends best friend. The 4 of us were actually tagged together in 50+ several months ago. In the pictures I just put up, me, my boyfriend and his best friend were tagged together. Is this girl randomly stalking me since I put up pictures of this guy? Maybe. Or, it is more likely that Facebook recognizes our past connections and is strategically "pushing" this person into our view? Probably both. I think that in this case, her appearance count is so high because she is looking at my profile/photos AND because Facebook recognizes the connections.

It seems that almost everyone has an explanation to why they appear in the 6box. You just have to think hard enough. One guy suddenly appeared with whom I don't interact with. Maybe two posts. Ever, Except, I realized he sent me a private message about a month ago. But it was only one. And we don't have a "Facebook history" so to speak. So in his case, I would assume that the PM was a large factor of making him appear in my 6box, BUT a few days prior to when he sent me a message, another girl sent me a private message and this girl has yet to appear in my 6box. Her and I have been friends on Facebook longer, went to the same college and have many more mutual friends together. Wouldn't it make sense for her to show up over him? I don't view him, but he has told me he looks or has looked at my profile which supports the theory that someone else's views of your profile are a factor.

So it seems that Facebook chooses the 6box friends based on who it thinks you'd reconnect with, people you have interacted with recently and who has looked at your profile recently. Everybody stalks, Facebook makes sure you do. So with that in mind, we assume that a number of space are for people Facebook thinks you'd be interested in based on your connections (i.e. past connections or interacting regularly with someone you interact regularly with). Some other spaces are reserved for people with whom you have obviously interacted with recently (posted photos, like a photo or status, posted on a wall etc.) and yes, some spaces are reserved for people who have viewed your profile recently aka are stalking you. Some people appear in my 6box that I have not had any interaction with in a long time and then suddenly appear. To attest to this, I spoke to two good college friends yesterday on the phone, but it has been a very long time since we have had any interaction on Facebook. Yet, after I spoke to them, they both appeared in my 6box. I also haven't had any Facebook interaction with someone in my 6box for probably 4+ years and yet, there he is. It seems the only explanation is that these people have looked at my profile.

So there you have it. I hope this offers some perspective, let me know if you have any questions!

Was anyone able to come to a good explanation about the 8box? This one does not make sense to me. Without a doubt the person whose Facebook I check the most is my boyfriend. Sometimes he appears in that 7th or 8th spot. But sometimes he does not appear in the 8box altogether. Also, when I monitored the people appearing in by 6box I kept tabs of the 8box except the people in those remained constant. It was exactly the same people (different order) for about 15 refreshes in a row and then all the sudden ALL the people change and it was a new group of 8. And then that group of 8 stays consistent for many refreshes. What?
Jun 27th, 2012 at 3:35 PM
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Yeah, I have 2-3 different sets of top 8 people. A few people of those people are in two sets. –  nameless  Jun 27th, 2012 at 5:35 PM
@ang,
You said you check your boyfriend's profile a lot and yet he doesn't show on your 6box. Do you know how much he checks your profile? –  AB  Jun 27th, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Usually not that much. Maybe a couple times a week if that. However, I recently put up pictures of us and I know he has looked through those.

Actually by pure coincidence I just checked my Facebook and refreshed a couple of times and now he is appearing. I know that he is on Facebook right now too (that sounds so creepy, but he just liked an article so I saw it)

Could it have to do with who is online then? Although I doubt it? –  ang  Jun 27th, 2012 at 10:07 PM
ang,
the 6 and 8 boxes used to be related to who view your profile until the recent change of algorithm.
Things went crazy and much more complicated ever since. –  Urban  Jun 27th, 2012 at 11:05 PM
As someone stated before, the top 6 might be mutual interactions... –  nameless  Jun 27th, 2012 at 11:54 PM
unfortunately for me at least, the 8 box seems to have nothing to do with my own interaction with friends..rather, it seems entirely random from what i can see. the 6 box is still confounding. a day ago it showed a friend who i have been crushing on but have restrained from viewing her facebook for over a month, and this friend showed up on my top 6 every single time i logged in every 30 minutes for one day. not sure if it has to do with her being online or not but my optimistic side is saying it is because she just viewed my profile. –  sandman12  Jun 28th, 2012 at 4:17 AM
I don't think there's any space RESERVED for whatever mutual activities but...if you don't interact in one way, the other ways weigh more, i.e. if you don't message / view his/her profile / comment or like each others' posts, then that only lead you to he/her viewing your profile if not that facebook is trying to get people to reconnect.... –  StupidGirl  Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:15 AM


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Anyone know what's the deal with people appearing first when you go to type in their names if you don't look at them recently? The person who who always appears was briefly bumped to the #2 spot yesterday after I looked at another person on the list (presumably, the other person may have looked at me), then rose again to the top spot. Person also has a very high keesh list value and is a regular at some times of day on the top 6
Jun 27th, 2012 at 5:35 PM
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they are usually people you associate with the most. Who you message who messages you, who you tag in photos and comments, who tags you in photos or comments, people who's page you most frequenty go on, and even those who frequently go on your page. That sort of thing.
Jun 28th, 2012 at 4:50 AM
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are you dumb this ENTIRE thread and EVERY post in it is trying to find the specifics, you just posted probably the most useless and generic statement on this entire forum. –  kt  Jun 28th, 2012 at 6:39 AM
haha...too funny!! –  vetrogrl  Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:03 PM
looool, really... –  Stranger  Jun 30th, 2012 at 7:57 AM


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To further confuse the matter here is my deal: I have only 19 FB friends, and I plan to keep it that way. I have one guy who is my crush who NEVER shows up in my top 6, but regularly(pretty much always) is in my 8 box. On FB mobile web or the FB app he is always in my top 6 (the mobile and app do not show the 8 box). His Keesh value is like 5.4, my next highest person is 3.4, and I do not look at his page often,some days not at all, some days once or maybe twice. We have never 'liked' each others posts or messaged or chatted or written on each others wall. Here is my dilemma- some days most all of my Find Friend suggestions are his, last week it was this way many days in a row. He is in a time zone that is two hours behind mine, so often in the mornings my top 3 friend suggestions are his friends, then that changes to other friends during the day, then in the afternoon my top 3-6 friend suggestions are his friends again....so can I assume that he is checking my page pretty often?? I have been making a solid effort over the past week to not look at his page, and the Keesh report number actually went up.
Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:00 PM
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Honestly, the keesh list confuses the **** out of me sometimes.

I admit, for the past 3 weeks, I couldn't control myself from not looking at my crush's profile. Today, I noticed her keesh value went up by -1, but then I realized that literally everyone else's keesh value went up as well! I don't recall seeing these particular set of keesh values in the past either. This is really frustrating. –  nameless  Jun 28th, 2012 at 5:57 PM
I've unfriend my crush, so why is he still number 1 or 2 on my keesh list? I don't understand... –  Stranger  Jun 30th, 2012 at 8:12 AM
When and why did you unfriend your crush, and what was his keesh value before and after compared to everyone else on your list?

Just because you unfriend someone, doesn't mean they are take them of the keesh list. I have lots of people on my keesh list with values as high as -.7 at one point, who aren't even FB friends with me. –  nameless  Jun 30th, 2012 at 9:37 AM


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so, i've kind of dated around this past year, and every one of my love interests shows up. i've also noticed a few friends whom i hardly contact through facebook pop up there. there are plenty of friends that i interact with more so than with these people and they never appear in the top 6 friend box. that leads me to believe that these are people who've checked my facebook regularly - hyper gregarious friends and people with an interest. kind of EXTREMELY interesting. ha. who knew...
Jun 29th, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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I'm lost here...
What is this "keesh value" ?
Jun 29th, 2012 at 3:18 AM
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This should help: https://www.gotknowhow.com/answers/how-does-faceboo... –  Answers  Jun 29th, 2012 at 3:25 AM


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Just in case anyone still thinks facebook doesn't track who views your profile. Katherine Losse (Facebook Employee #51) has a new tell-all book called, "The Boys Kings: A Journey into the Heart of the Social Network."

In it, she talks about the internal "Facebook Stalker" tool, that allowed the Facebook team to actually see who has viewed their profile. The internal tool appropriately named "Facebook Stalker" allowed Losse and other employees to not only see who viewed their profiles, but it also tracked how long friends stayed on their pages.

I think it's pretty clear that this data is factored in to the friends box, no matter what facebook says publicly or would like you to believe.  It's almost certainly used to show which friends pictures end up in your profile friends boxes.
Jun 30th, 2012 at 1:44 AM
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are you referring to the top 6 friends boxes or the top 8?i feel like the algorithms have been changing so frequently lately that fb is making sure we don't have any way of knowing who has viewed your profile.. –  sandman12  Jun 30th, 2012 at 4:43 AM
I read some stuff about her book online also, and I'm not surprised that FB would have a stalker tool to see who has viewed your profile and how long even.

I'm a little taken aback about how much they would worship mark zuckerburg for a day and be forced to dedicated to FB, as well as play sexist games among female coworkers, if true Sigh. –  nameless  Jun 30th, 2012 at 9:40 AM


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Wow, this is interesting. My crush just appeared on my top 5 rows (via friends list) for the first time.There was 3 other people that appeared on my top 5 rows as well, that I know I haven't interacted with as of this week. I'm definitely thinking all 4 people looked at my profile earlier today.

Other than that, I now have 3 sets of friends list.

1. This top 5 default rows of friends have largely been unchanged(only maybe 1 or 2 people have cycled in two weeks ago)
2. Half of the people in the top 5 rows are people that I recently interacted with, about 7-9 days ago via like/comment/status. It occasionally shows when I refresh the friends list.. I don't know if they showed up on my top 5 rows, if they interacted back with my profile (page view, viewing pics) or not.. I honestly don't know. I wonder how long I'll have this set. Wish it was gone already tbqh. Also I'll check to see if commenting/liking on other people's profiles who aren't in my top 5 rows already, will bump them up to the top 5 rows to this set or not..

3. This one seems to be based on people who have recently interacted with my profile, I think. It was the one I was talking about my crush and 3 other people.


I also feel like they show up at certain times/intervals as well.
Jul 1st, 2012 at 7:33 AM
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This is interesting...

For the past day now, my top 8 and top 5 rows(friends list) haven't changed/cycled with other friends at all, and I've only seen one set of friends for both! My crush is in the fixed #8 position(as well as the other 7 friends.. But they change positions of course when refreshed) on my top 8, and she's still on my top 5 rows via friends list as well. –  nameless  Jul 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 PM
My crush is no longer in the fixed #8 spot (but she's part of the other 7), and my #2 person on the keesh list has now taken the #8 spot. I viewed both of their profiles like 2-3 times today, but that's it. #2 though, I'm pretty confident that she hasn't been on fb since last week though. Hmm. –  nameless  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 12:09 AM


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I've been reading this thread and find all these theories very interesting! I don't think we'll ever know the answer though.

I agree that the top 6 box relies on mutual interaction (private messages mostly it seems to me), but there's also some randoms thrown in there. Might be that those randoms have been viewing you, or you've viewed them and facebook is alerting you to this so you can "reconnect". Top 8 box is a mystery to me. For me, it consists of some family members, but also some classmates that I don't interact with much at all. The 8 stay pretty consistant, which makes it even more odd why they got chosen. A few of the people also appear in my top 6 box, so I think there is something mutual going on with the top 8 box and how it relates to the rest.

For example, the top 5 rows of the friends list when you click "see all", is the most intersting to me. For me, it's a mix of the top 6 and some of the top 8. Recently I liked someones status and they jumped into my top 6 box , the top 8 box and into the top spot of the top 5 rows of the friends list. I think this means they visited my profile.

But another very interesting thing is that my ex, who regulary appears in my top 6 box (we talked in PM for a while recently, so it makes sense), only appears in my top 5 rows of my friends list a lot every once in a while. He'll be towards the bottom for like 20 clicks and then I refresh and he's suddenly listed at number 1! An then he'll stay in the top 5 rows for a few clicks until a refresh a few minutes later and he's much lower.

Does this mean that it's a spike in activity and he has recently viewed my profile? As this is happening, I'm not viewing his profile at the same time, so that can't be it.
Jul 1st, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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Agreed. I really don't care about the top 6, and the friends list interests me the most, with the top 8 following behind.

Everything that you described in your top 5 rows in friends list and top 8, has happened to me as well.

BTW
1.Have you interacted with your ex in anyway, recently?
2. Have you checked you're friends values via keesh list? –  nameless  Jul 1st, 2012 at 6:35 PM


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Thats all is so mysterious, but i am sure, that the 6-friends-box is exactly that, where you can see who cares the most about you or cared about you, visited your profile. I have many friends with whom i do interact but they never appeared in the box. Maybe cause they never goes on others timeline and are just in Facebook for sending messages. The people in my box i recognized are mostly these, where i know they do like me and check my statutes every time, or a hater who is jealous. One thing i noticed is, that my crush never appeared on the box, after i started dating with him, interacted in Facebook with him too, he also didn´t appear in the box. Then i broke up all contacts with him, cause i was furious about something what he did, and deactivated his news feed, so they would not appear if he posts something new and i took him off from the list of good friends. After i while, maybe after 1 week ,he suddenly appeared in the box. And after refreshing the site he was appearing more often after he got online (maybe seeing my timeline and photos etc.).
my conclusion is that the 6-friend-box show your stalkers and good friends who are interested in you.

The 8 -friend box is more random i think, like the former 15-friend-sidebar
Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 PM
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Personally, I think the 8 friend box and the friends list is more predictable of who visited your page, than the top 6. My crush has recently moved up to my top 5 (without much interaction from me, except a occasional page visit) since2- 3 days ago, and has stayed since then. My crush is also on a fixed position on the 8th slot (well she is also #1 on the keesh list) of my 8 friends box, and its been going on for almost 2 days now (the other 7 who randomly switch positions when refreshed are still the same people too.). –  nameless  Jul 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 PM


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I agree with nameless... The girl I crush on must be actually crushing on one of my really good friends because she hasn't left his lower right-hand corner spot in over three days. Him, like me, has had hardly any interaction with her. For me, my top eight is now pretty regularly coming up in two different sets, which makes sense because I've communicated with everyone on those two sets. My crush comes up in every other form of my page (including the chat list occasionally) but I think that lower right hand corner is a good indication of who likes you or has been scamming on your page. Maybe it's different for others, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Jul 2nd, 2012 at 9:32 PM
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my crush moved down on the keesh list, down on my friends page, but moved up on the chat list and up on the list of timeline friends (bottom of this link: https://www.facebook.com/about/timeline). i've looked at his page max 4 times in the past 2-3 weeks. i don't get it. –  tiff  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 12:10 AM
also i have no fixed top 8 spot like you guys do... –  tiff  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 AM
@tiff- same here! my crush moved down my keesh list but i have a feeling she looked at my profile in the past two days because of our interactions outside of facebook..yesterday and this morning she showed up every single time i refreshed my timeline in the top 6 friends boxes. ALSO, i have not looked at her profile in over a week, yet when i entered the first letter of her name in the search box today, she has moved from the second friend to the top friend. i never used to give any credit to the search bar (i always thought it was only friends who i searched for) however, i think this change is significant because of the fact that i haven't viewed her profile in a while. i don't care for the top 8 friends though..the ones that show up on my profile are entirely random in my opinion. –  sandman12  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 AM
@tiff:How often do you interact with him/his profile? Maybe the keeshlist values more often weighs more heavily on your interaction than vice versa, unless they really go at it on your profile. I feel like the less I look at her page(or not at all interacting with her), my keesh list will naturally go down, but if I look at it a little(page views.. and profile views)and I think if she looks at me), it goes up quite a bit sometimes, which makes me think mutualistic interactions have more impact.

And I do think page views, comments/likes, have much more weigh than a page view, though perhaps page views can add up.

I'm not as worried about this, then the random bouts where literally every friend's values on my keesh list go up or down(no matter how much or not, I interact with their profile.. I also can't interact with all my friends either), which makes me wonder how accurate the keesh list really is at times.

Thus, I don't think its nearly as good of an indicator of people stalking profiles as top 8 and top 15 friends list. –  nameless  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:38 AM
@nameless -- no interaction within the past 2-3 weeks, and like i said before, i've only viewed his profile max 4 times in that same time frame.

the weird thing is he jumped up 3 spots on the chat list, and is in a higher spot on the timeline friends than a really good friend who i interact with almost daily. –  tiff  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:46 AM
@Tiff: Also private messages should bring up a keesh list values by a lot. My #2 keesh list buddy, our main form of interaction is through PMs(which we may do once or twice a week sometimes), and I noticed when we pm each other(like once to three times a week.. But more often once lately), her keesh value rises upAlso, I don't look at her profile often, and I'm not sure how often she looks/interacts with mine. . I find it interesting that almost 2 months ago when I first noticed the keesh list.. My crush (#1) had a value of -7.8, but now has lowered to -6.0, while my #2 friend has actually risen from around -2.5 to + -3.00.

@Random:

I don't necessarily think that's the case. It's hard to tell really. At the time, was she on your #8 as a fixed spot, on your top 8 profile? –  nameless  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:50 AM
@nameless -- no private messages either! not since may or something like that. i'm trying to distance myself so literally no contact. i really don't get fb... –  tiff  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 AM
I wouldn't take keesh list too seriously.. Again, what's a given is that it's heavily based on who you've interacted with(especially photo views and private messages(, whether they are your fb friend or not. Perhaps weighing more so then if that person interacted with you. –  nameless  Jul 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 AM


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I have done some more experiments. I liked/commented on a few people's walls that I normally don't interact with much at all. Within a few minutes, all three appeared in my top 6 box and in the first 5 rows of my friends list. They stayed there for a few hours and then went down towards the bottom of my list again (and stayed there). None of these people replied to my comment/like, so it must be that they went to my profile after my like/comment, which is why they suddenly ranked in the top 5 rows. Later, I wished someone a happy birthday and they liked that comment, but have yet to appear in my top 6 box and on my friends list they have stayed at the bottom. I normally don't interact much with this person on facebook either. So, my theory is that even if the interaction is mutual (commenting and the person liking the comment), it doesn't change anything with them moving up or into the top 6 box UNLESS they view my profile after I comment on theirs. I think this is why the other three people who I commented/liked, moved into the 6 box and the top rows of my friends list. It's because they viewed me.

I also had a theory that being online has an influence on movement in the top 5 rows of the list, but I don't think this is the case. Someone I had recent contact with in PM may be visibly online in chat, but still be towards the bottom of my friends list. Even if they do show up in my top 6 box. Now, someone else (my ex, ahum), has been consistantly high on my list, even though I spoke to him in PM and posted on his wall before I spoke to the people who are lower on my list. All in all, I think this is proof of the top 5 rows being recent viewers of YOUR profile, after you interact with their profile (like/comment/PM).
Jul 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 PM
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In response to your first paragraph, I was testing this also, about 2 weeks ago by liking/posting on 6-8 people's status and I noticed immediately after liking/commenting on the 3rd person, that they showing up on my top 5 rows on my friends list, several hour later (this was also during the same time I got 2-3 different sets of top 8 and top 5 rows, each.. though these people, they all showed up on one particular set) and they lasted on my top 5 rows for a week with several o them cycling through on my top 8 on a daily basis. Was kind of annoying.

Since last Saturday, I've only had set of top 8 and top friends list, each. Interestingly enough, on Sunday, I liked a friend's status update (about getting a P.E. in Engineering), and he showed up once on my top 5 rows, but never again. He had +100 likes, and I really doubt he viewed my profile.


No, I don't think being online has any influence on people moving up and down in the top 5 rows. I do wonder how facebook cycles through the top 8, as it seems like at least 2 people get cycled out/in, daily.

I've noticed though, that the people that appear on my top 8, are usually somewhere in/ the top 12(or 13) rows from my friends least, at least. My first 1-5th row of friends is the first group, 6 to 12th(or 13) row of friends is the 2nd group. 14-21 is the 3rd group, 4th group is rows 22 to 29, and so on. How I've noticed this is by refreshing, and seeing friends in each group, don't leave beyond those rows,. This can differ by the amount of friends you have (I only have like 188 friends). It's kind of funny also.. About 3 months ago, I stopped looking at my crush's profile for almost a month. I noticed she was around the 22-28/9 rows, but then as the weeks went by(probably starting since 2 months ago, she went up to 13/4 to 21, 6-12(just last week), and now has been on my top 5 rows since Saturday, I believe. I commented/liked her status twice within the 2 month period, and noticed she jumped through the rows through that. I've also been seeing her profile more often now, but I do think she's looking at my profile.. –  nameless  Jul 4th, 2012 at 2:13 AM
About 4 weeks ago, I put her on my acquaintance list, and for the most part, my way of looking at her profile, was through the acquaintance list (I put several people on the list besides her).

For whatever reason, a week later, she bumped into my 6 to 13 rows on my friends list, and that's when she began showing on my top 8. That's when I started thinking that maybe--because I commented on her twice within a 1-2 month period, MAYBE she began to look at my profile more(she was also announced a relationship on FB, but that lasted for 3-4 weeks, and changed her status back, around the last week of May, I think).


So in conclusion, I definitely think top 8 and the top friends on the friends list are connected, and I'm hypothesize that the only people that show up on the top 8, are your first 2 groups on your friends list(the first 2 set of rows.. For mine its 1-5, and 6-13.) I also think that the people on your top 5 will most likely show up on the top 8 more often than the 2nd group of rows under it. Please confirm if its the same with you guys also! –  nameless  Jul 4th, 2012 at 2:24 AM
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Also, while I'm certain that interaction is the key factor for friends to moving up rows on your friends list, I don't know if its mutual, or from their side.

My #4 person on my keesh list, is in the 4th group of my friends list (22-29th rows). I haven't liked/commented on any of her stuff for months, and only occasionally look at her profile(1 to a few times per week). My # 1-3 are in my top 5 (1st being crush with a very high rating of -6, 2nd being a friend I message occasionally of 3.3, and 3rd who is my sister and listed as my sister on FB with a value of 2.12). #s 5(some girl that likes me), 6(brother, though not listed as a brother.. We interact more than I interact with my sis though), 9(good acquaintance of my brother and I that I interact with regularly), and 10(good friend) are also on my top 5 rows. So, this makes 7 people out of my top 10 on my keesh list, on my top 5 rows. The other 8 people (since there's 15 people total in the top 5 rows) on my top 5 rows, are anywhere on the 16th to +50th positions on my keesh list. –  nameless  Jul 4th, 2012 at 2:42 AM
For me, it seems to pick people from the first two groups of my friends list to go in my top 8 and it kind of cycles from there.

I am sticking with the theory that the first 5 rows of your list, is the people who have viewed your profile recently/the most. So it's your top viewers, with new/recent viewers cycled in. That explains why some people show up in the top rows for a bit and then go back down again.
I have looked at my keesh list, but it doesn't seem to tell me much. Only tells me who I've been looking at, haha, since it includes people I don't even have added. So I haven't really been factoring in keesh when it comes to these experiments.

Another interesting thing, yesterday I sent a pm to a girl who has been in my top 5 rows for a while. She replied and suddenly she's in my top 8 again (and still in the 5 rows). Either the message/interaction bumped her into the 8, or she visited my profile. –  Athalia  Jul 4th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
^^how often does your top 5 rows change though? Mines at least last for a week, sometimes more. –  nameless  Jul 4th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
My top 5 rows have been unchanged since I started looking at it, so definitely the same this past week. –  Athalia  Jul 4th, 2012 at 8:04 PM
More observations (I'm bored and on facebook a lot, lol)... in viewing other peoples timelines, I noticed that the first 3 rows of their friends list stay the same (the same people rotate in the three rows). So I went to look at my own timeline as someone else and noticed this is the same for me. In viewing my own friends list as someone else, my top 3 rows are constantly the same and the same people rotate in those 3 rows. Not sure what this means, but it's freaking me out a bit as it could mean these are the people you look at the most. And any of them can go to your friends list and see themselves in your top 3 rows!
Another thing, if you look at your top 8 and view your own timeline as one of these people, you'll notice that that person does not see themselves in your top 8. Instead, it'll show in the #8 spot one of your mutual friends! –  Athalia  Jul 5th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
How many mutual friends do you have with those friends that you've checked their friendlists with? Maybe it's just showing mutual friends for the first top 3 rows (assuming you have 9 friends in common).

Yeah, I noticed the top 8 thing too. –  nameless  Jul 5th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Nope, some are mutual friends, but most aren't. And I clicked on a person I don't have added just to check and their first 3 rows stayed the same as well. –  Athalia  Jul 5th, 2012 at 4:36 PM
For me, those nine friends are exactly the same as the first nine spots on the friends chat list on the messenger app (the list that shows up when you click on new message) and FB mobile app chat.
Not sure what that means. –  AB  Jul 6th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
Athalia, I just noticed the 9 friends(top 3 rows) as well.

However, there are some people on my top 3 rows (when viewing from friend's perspective feature) that i don't interact with often and are #24, 48 and 50 on my keesh list. I also viewed a friend's fb profile, and saw that I was in her top 3 rows, no matter how much I refreshed as well. I don't interact with her profile a whole lot, though she's been in my top 13 rows on my friends list for almost month now. However, I'm in another friend's top 3 rows as well, but we interact quite on a weekly basis, though he comments/likes on my status updates more than vice versa. So honestly, I really don't know what to think. –  nameless  Jul 24th, 2012 at 6:27 AM


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Have about 200 friends...
so I placed my ex on the acquaintance list 4 weeks ago...and he no longer shows up in my top8 or top 6, where he was frequently before. I don't visit his page as much... maybe once a week except for one weekend about 3 weeks ago when I visited it about 10 times that weekend. no email, IM, comments or likes in almost 10 months between either one of us.

he is
1. Not in the top 6
2. Not in the top 8
3. At the bottom of my friend list
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4. I am pretty sure I am on his acquaintance list; can't see friends, tagged photos and mobile uploads. However, i am pretty sure he creeps on my page...cause that is just like him!! And I know he is comparing me to his new GF.

with the friend finder...he is one 10 people that rotate; the other 9 are all close family members...its been like that for at least 4 weeks.

This is the new stalker reveal on facebook! The friend finder lets you know who is checking your profile frequently
Jul 6th, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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How much did you communicatie with your ex before on facebook? Could be that the friend finder takes this into account. For me, my friend finder shows a few people that I have previously communicated with on facebook private message, but don't talk to anymore now. My other people on friend finder are a close friend and family members. –  Athalia  Jul 6th, 2012 at 6:45 PM


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I have read this whole thread and still havent a clue what to believe :) .........Anyway I have found a strange one, i talk to a girl on FB quite a bit, we comment on each others status etc.......Well anyway today in my notifications it said she has updated her status which i hadnt seen or commented on and it had next to it the close friends icon . I havent added her or anyone as a close friend so could it be she has added me ?? As i said her status was just a random update that i had no interaction with ??? Anyone else come across this ?? Would please me no end if she has added me :) :)
Jul 6th, 2012 at 6:50 PM
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Read the majority of this thread, all very interesting! funny how everyone wants to know about that 'one person' ;)

Regarding the drag down chat thing...has anyone noticed two different lists? Basically, i go offline, look at all the people and noticed that they are the people i am closest too, for example my friend who i have 150 mutual friends with and tagged in plenty of photos/places and decent wall to wall posts. (this list is less frequent)
When i see this list and refresh my page, my more familiar list appears... a list that doesnt have the friend mentioned above (we don't pm much cos we see each other regularly)

The reason i ask is that that 'one person' is the sole remainer on the refreshed list when i drag the list to the bottom ;) she is like 15th ish on the other list

Anyone else noticed two different lists?
Jul 6th, 2012 at 7:34 PM
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Yeah, I have two different lists on chat as well. And it's definitely interesting to see who disappears and who stays when you drag the list down. –  Athalia  Jul 6th, 2012 at 8:45 PM
Just noticed this today as well. Interesting. –  nameless  Jul 17th, 2012 at 8:24 AM


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Any thoughts about the mutual friend finder? For me the list is made of family and my four best friends from my hometown, a real good friend that moved away, a random girl I went to high school with, a random girl I went out drinking with one night and my crush that I've never talked to- that's it. So strange. I understand the family and close friends aspect of it, but for the two girls I barely know and my crush constantly showing (in addition to my crush being at the bottom of my second chat list), the first name that comes up when you type for people's name and is always in my six person box, but never on the eight person box and the chat list for my I-Phone (REALLY sorry about the run-on sentence)), it makes me wonder. I really like her and don't want to blow it if anything were to happen. It would nice to be validated somehow in that there was at least mutual profile viewing going on. Out of boredom, I randomly went to my friend's list and I'm at the very bottom. Ironically, the person I communicate with the most on FB is way at the bottom of my own friend list too. My crush is basically in the middle of my list but used to really high up and sometimes #1 on my phone or laptop, but this was a long time ago. She could've put me under acquaintances for whatever reason, because I did that to her to because it's frustrating always being left in the dark. So frustrating. And what I can gather from the info here is that there may be no universal answer to each of out concerns. Each theory is unique unto itself without any generalization that could lead us close to "The One"... Any thoughts? OH BTW, my crush is # one on the list Tiff provided and by far #1 on the keesh hack... thanks guys.
Jul 8th, 2012 at 12:50 AM
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I agree with Jane, I am convinced the Friend Finder is the stalker reveal. I still have only 19 friends, and I have only sent my crush 1 message, which he did not reply to- we do not like each other's posts or photos, we don't chat, etc. He is still at the very top of my Keesh list by a large margin. Now he no longer shows up in my 6 box or 8 box. But he generally ALWAYS has the top few friend suggestions. There are no photos of me on my wall, you have to go into my albums to find the one photo of me, so I think he is looking at my photo. Or maybe listening to some music I have posted on my wall. This week I purposefully x'd out all the friend suggestions that were his to try to see if other friends rose to the top of the list- within a few hours his friends were right back up at the top of the suggested friends list. I have done this twice now, same thing, his friends make their way back to the top of the suggestions fairly quickly (within 12 hours). He also shows up as someone for my 'close friend' list, and is on my "poke" suggestion list. The other two people who show up on those lists are my 2nd and 3rd people on the Keesh and I actually interact with those people. I do not look at his profile but maybe once or twice a week. I can also tell when he has been offline for a while, his friend suggestions go toward the bottom of the Find Friends page, but later in the afternoon or when he is back online they are back up at the top. Or all of a sudden one of his close friends or family will pop up to my number 1 or 2 friend suggestions then fall back lower. He is in a time zone 2 hours behind mine and my observations match what I think would be his online patterns. I also think the top suggested friends are people he interacts with more, because the ones that I cleared out last week were all his closest friends. Now the suggestions are pretty much is second string friends. He is still generally always in my 6 box on the mobile app though, but not in my 6 or 8 box on the full version. He and I have a complicated history and are trying to sort out where we stand right now, and he just moved to a new city where he knows no one for a new job, so I imagine he is spending alot of time on FB lately because he is missing his friends.
Jul 8th, 2012 at 2:15 AM
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I am starting to think this is true too. Over the weekend I sent a friend request and a private message to a girl who lived in my street when I was little. I wanted to reconnect. She hasn't replied yet or friended me back, but I just went to friend finder and some of her friends are at the top of the list! We've got no mutual friends or anything, but suddenly they're there at the top! –  Athalia  Jul 9th, 2012 at 10:31 AM


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Sorry if this has been covered, but I don't recall seeing it.

I don't think the algorithm update has taken place on my profile yet. I've never been certain of the top 15 friends. The friend is the lower right of the 8 is one of my closer friends (though I've added no one to any default lists), so she is generally shown in the lower right. The top 6 still seems to be a mix of interactions and MAYBE mutual views. I try like hell to avoid visiting my crush's page from my main account and rarely visit from my personal. We're friends in real life, so we see each other frequently. There has been some tension there for years, blah blah. He's constantly in my top 6. Perhaps not in every refresh and there are time fluctuations, but I can refresh it a few times (I do believe 6 REFRESHES of the profile page is the magic number) and there he'll be. Often in the top left. I do occasionally like a shared photo and rarely a holiday related status, but I never "like" personal photos to be discrete as it's a potentially complex scenario and I don't want lots of public activity. Anyway, I checked out the "see friendship" feature between me and my "friend" and other than 1 mutually attended event, NOTHING else is listed when viewed from my account. No comments, posts, likes, tags, etc. I have a fake profile and he and I are also "friends" and share other mutual friends via this profile (it's a fun profile, not used for creeping and my friends know that), but I can see all the details, wall posts, birthday greetings, comments, etc. I also have the option to click on these things which I cannot do from my own profile. Meaning my fake profile can see the friendship between my real profile and our mutual friend's (my crush) profile.

This friend always appears in the mutual friend field under "Find Friends" after 3-4 refreshes (probably the 6th -8th unique name), appears as friend 3, 8 and 9 in my biweekly ranking experiment and also fluctuates between friend 3 and 12 on the Keesh. As I said, I'm trying like hell not to visit his profile from my main account more than once every 2 weeks and probably had gone 3 months without viewing it. He doesn't post much and I can see his photo shares in news feed and I really don't click on them.

He's also #2 on the get timeline page thing, though and always one of the last 2-3 to disappear when pulling down the chat bar and I believe that is because he doesn't use mobile and all my other close friends do.

My main point is I'd like to know if anyone else who is trying to figure out if "the one" is visiting can see full details of their friendship using the "see friendship" feature.
Jul 9th, 2012 at 5:20 AM
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my top 8, and my top 5 rows on my FL is back to one set again. My top 5 rows is back to set as it was 2 saturdays ago, with the same people in them, including my crush. And my top 8 seems to be cycling the same people in a pattern now.

Starting to take them less seriously now. –  nameless  Jul 11th, 2012 at 12:53 AM


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My Crush is right now in the lower right spot of my top 8. And he is the only one not rotating around. And my roomate is seeing another top 8 than I am. So. Any Ideas what thats suppose to mean? She is seeing a couple of friends I barely talk to, on facebook and in real life.
Jul 9th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
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my crush is back on my top 8 (i have two sets and he is on one of them). i didn't view his profile for a month, but then this past weekend viewed it maybe 7-8 times and liked one of his statuses. the rest of the people on my top 8 are people i barely interact with ever. he's also in the top 5 rows of my friends page now (on one of the sets). hmm.. –  tiff  Jul 9th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
My crush is also back on top 8. I viewed his profile couple times this month. He's also on the 6th and top 5. –  Urban  Jul 9th, 2012 at 5:19 PM
They are most likely high on your keesh list(#1 or #2), that is all. And keesh list heavily depends on how much you interact with them(page views, photo views, status views via livefeed update clicker on the right hand side, likes, comments, private message/chats.) –  nameless  Jul 9th, 2012 at 9:36 PM
ok really interesting here -- apparently your top 8 changes depending on which computer you are logged into. earlier when i said my crush appeared on my top 8 today, i was logged onto my computer at work. just got home, and it's showing me a completely different set of 8 (this set is the one i've been seeing for a few weeks now). –  tiff  Jul 9th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
I see both sets of my top 8 (when I have them) on any computer, regardless.

Sometimes you just have to refresh a couple times to see them, or at least for me, I do. –  nameless  Jul 10th, 2012 at 1:30 AM
my sets (i have two on my work computer and two on my home computer) are completely different. the one at work seems to be the more up to date one -- like within the last day or two. –  tiff  Jul 10th, 2012 at 1:43 AM


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Ok, so my crush just became my bottom right of the 8 and is not moving. All last week he was not in the top 8 or 6. His friends are still my top 3 'find friends'.
Jul 9th, 2012 at 5:20 PM
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My crush is on my real good friend's bottom eight corner and hasn't moved so it's either wishful thinking on his part or something is going on between them. Kinda sucks.
Jul 9th, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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"My crush is on my real good friend's bottom eight corner and hasn't moved so it's either wishful thinking on his part or something is going on between them. Kinda sucks"

no, large chance is you are in your friend' s top 8, and you got substituted by a mutual friend and that's what you see
Jul 11th, 2012 at 2:16 AM
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I've noticed this ever since I switched to TImeline at the beginning of April. The girl I'm crushing on and my best friend were constantly on the bottom 8 friends box for ages, at least more than a month. I wouldn't say I interacted with either of them that much over facebook but I know my buddy looks at my profile and we usually talk over private message. My crush, well I don't interact with her that much at all over facebook except for the odd message or picture comment here and there..certainly nothing like the interactions I have with some of my friends and they're not in that list. The other 6 friends used to change but these two remained constant. Then after a while I used to notice that my crush used to appear every other day, sometimes every day but mostly every other day on the bottom 8 box. They're both present regularly in the top 6 box as well. I think it's a strong link with who was or is viewing your profile..I'd get someone comment on my status and suddenly they'd show up in the bottom 8 box. There's definitely a set of patterns I think I've sussed out.
Jul 11th, 2012 at 7:17 PM
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what if everyone in my top 8 friend box rotates....

I usually have 6 friends (out of 8) who I recently liked/commented on their post (via my newsfeed / without going to their profile) and 2 random (but one is my crush and the other one had a crush on me a few years ago who we were in contact with a few weeks ago publicly on facebook but nothing more after that)

I didn't keep track of other people but my crush usually show up in the box in the morning our time and disappear in the afternoon. Other people stay the same but all rotate. –  StupidGirl  Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:05 AM


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I was corresponding with a friend via private messages this evening and she moved up in my total friends list (though she is typically in the top 15 as I know she looks at my page often) and she moved up into #1 after I refreshed after a few message exchanges. She also appeared 4 times in the top 6 during 6 refreshes. I still think that is tied to views, but the 15 friends seems to indicate mutual interaction. She is in my top 8 a lot too.

As for the 3 names under mutual friends, she was listed as the top of the 3 names for 3 consecutive refreshes and her professional profile is listed as my #1 friend suggestion.

I still think the top 6 is based on views as she has still cycles, but is less frequent a few hours later.
Jul 12th, 2012 at 1:50 AM
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so i've been noticing the friends summary boxes lately (there is one for every year), and most of it seems to be in the order that you friended people, but there are always a few at the very beginning of each year that are out of order -- i'm pretty convinced that those are people who look at your profile most or have looked at it recently. i know it's definitely not who you look at most because i've tried that with a friend and they never showed up at the beginning.

(sorry this is an unrelated reply to MM's comment, i didn't know how to start a new response). –  tiff  Jul 12th, 2012 at 4:33 AM
friend's summary boxes? Where's this at? –  nameless  Jul 12th, 2012 at 6:21 AM
Yeah, i'm wondering the same. What do you mean with friends summary? –  Athalia  Jul 12th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
at the beginning of every year, you should have a friend summary box that tells you how many friends you added that year, with pictures and everything. –  tiff  Jul 12th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
But where do you click to see that? –  Athalia  Jul 12th, 2012 at 5:38 PM
just click on the year... next to your cover photo it lists (now... 2012.. 2011.. etc) –  tiff  Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:29 PM


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Well.....I think everyone is wrong. When I look at mine I see people I don't interact much with but they were some of my first friend requests or acceptances. Don't know if anyone has noticed this or not. This is the same for the top 6 and side 8. No stalkers, crushes, etc....that we wish it were....LOL!!!
Jul 12th, 2012 at 7:12 AM
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Almost everyone in my 6 box - no matter how many times I refresh or the algarythm updates- are people who's profiles or photos I frequently view, and they most likely view mine-they are people i have had private message chats with, they have liked my statuses, photos, ect. and vise versa. I honestly think it is a mutual interaction thing, just as facebook claims. Does it reveal who views your profile? Technically, Yes. In order for them to show up in the six box if they havent had a private message chat or liked anything of yours it must be that they have viewed your profile. But, you must have also viewed there's.. OR in SOME WAY interacted with them. Even possibly tagged in photos you are also tagged in, from the same hometown and attented the same highschool.. graduated the same year.. ect. I have read several forums and done alot of research myself. And the 'mutual interaction' claim seems to be the most legitament. Feel free to comment and prove me wrong.. though, I have an open mind !
Jul 12th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
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Mutual interaction seems like a factor, but to me it seems odd that some people suddenly pop up in the 6 box, when I don't think I've ever really done anything but look at their profile once a while ago. Maybe the mutual thing gets activated as soon as they look at mine, however much later? And then they show up in the box? That's all I can think for them suddenly showing up.

My profile has been weird lately. Since yesterday I have had three different top 8 boxes, my first 5 rows of my friends list go back and forth between two sets. And my top 6 box also seems to be two different batches of 25 people that rotate. Very odd. Change of algorithms maybe? –  Athalia  Jul 13th, 2012 at 8:12 AM
And suddenly I have two new names rotating on the mutual friend finder. Hmm... –  Athalia  Jul 13th, 2012 at 8:14 AM
And now some people are appearing twice on my friends list. I'm confused! –  Athalia  Jul 13th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
@athalia:

This has been happening to me on and off, for at least a month now. –  nameless  Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:30 PM


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In response to Tiff:

"so i've been noticing the friends summary boxes lately (there is one for every year), and most of it seems to be in the order that you friended people, but there are always a few at the very beginning of each year that are out of order -- i'm pretty convinced that those are people who look at your profile most or have looked at it recently. i know it's definitely not who you look at most because i've tried that with a friend and they never showed up at the beginning.

(sorry this is an unrelated reply to MM's comment, i didn't know how to start a new response). – "

I am seeing this exact same thing and the person in question is number 1 for the year added. I also viewed this from another account on a different computer and saw the same thing so you may be on to something. Thanks for pointing it out.
Jul 13th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
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Hmm, I'm not seeing this. It for some reason only shows me friends I added in january of 2012. The other months aren't showing anything. I think it's because I clear out my facebook page every once in a while. –  Athalia  Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:36 PM


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Quick question to everyone:

How many people in your top 8, are somewhere in your top 5 rows in your friends list? And are the rest at least from rows 6-13 in your friends list?

I've noticed for a few weeks now, that I've been consistentally getting 4-5 people out of 8, from my top 5 rows in my friends list, on my top 8 friends list. The other 3-4 are always from rows 6-13.
Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:33 PM
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Yes, from first 5 rows and then from rows 6-13. But I've recently noticed some new people in my top 8 and they also suddenly appeared in my first 5 rows and are currently stuck there. –  Athalia  Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:57 PM
this might be a long shot...i've noticed today that whenever i refresh my profile on the mobile version of facebook (on my iphone) it typically shows the same friend in two different places on the top 6 friends. anybody else think this has anything to do with who views your profile more? –  sandman12  Jul 15th, 2012 at 5:16 AM
@sandman12:

I've thought this, but honestly I think the people that rotate in the top 6 box just have an equal chance of appearing in each of the 6 boxes each time you refresh. –  Athalia  Jul 15th, 2012 at 6:59 AM


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Don’t know if it has been mention, but can someone tell me. Does one of the 6 people on top appear because one, or more of your other friends go through your page to visit a certain person, a person they don’t have on there friend list?
My question is, does that the person appear more often on your page, because of other friends?
Jul 16th, 2012 at 12:01 AM
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I've never thought of that. But if the top 6 shows who YOU view (that's a theory), then that wouldn't be the case. That person would show up in your friends top 6 box.

Another weird thing (can't seem to make my own reply anymore), since a few days my ex keeps popping into the number 2 spot on my chatlist when I drag it down (he was third). And when he pops into second place, my top 8 changes to one that has him in it! It's driving me crazy to keep seeing his picture pop onto my timeline. When this happens my top 5 rows on my list also change (so it goes back and forth between two different top 5 rows). So odd. –  Athalia  Jul 16th, 2012 at 8:26 AM


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I'm kinda sure that when you see someone in the list of 8 friends on the right side, and this someone usually never appears there, and after refresh keeps stanging there... this means he is (or soon was) online and is curently checking your profile or pictures (or real soon was).

I found it just the other day:
I have only 90 friends, and only 1/3 of them appear in the list of 8. Most of the time there are the same 4-5+1-2 who are from this 1/3, and these are my closest friends. Very rarely appears someone from the other 2/3, but after refresh is gone. I have one friend (we had a thing together, and he is not part of the 1/3, and that's why i notice him each time when he pop-up somewhere) who usually never appears in the group of 8, and last night stood there in that list for more than 1/2 of hour and he was online for few minutes before he hide himself Even if he's online, or I check his profile he never shows in the list of 8, just in the group of 6 in the top. and then suddenly - bam!!! And it's all because i've posted few pictures earlier this day.
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Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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My experiment proved that those 6 friends are those whose profiles I have viewed recently. It is not really about how often we interact.
Jul 17th, 2012 at 7:56 PM
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I believe those are who stalk you since
1) I tried to stalk two friends of mine and they wouldn't show up in the boxes
2) you don't need that info (if the people in the boxes are who you view a lot) you know who you view a lot...you don't need facebook to tell you this and if it does, it'll totally freak you out (imagining seeing people you stalk on your profile everyday)
3) there's one way of explaining if one or a few of them are who you view a lot
since if you do, by this theory...your friend can see you in their box and they might come around and check you out and that's when they'll show up in your boxes.

and I sometimes find someone show up in the top left when that person just go offline
Jul 18th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
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I agree for the same reasons. I suspect mutual interaction has something to do with it but the top 6 box seems to show people who have viewed my profile recently (along with a random friend thrown in sometimes). Wish I knew how often it updated though! –  sandman12  Jul 18th, 2012 at 10:03 PM


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something I forgot to mention

if by any means, you do interact with those people a lot, that means they have probably viewed your profile before you interact with them a lot. (they talk (msg) to you on facebook or whatever)

Sometimes I find people appearing in the boxes after I've been in contact with them elsewhere but on facebook
so yeah... i believe they check out my page after we've been in contact (not on facebook tho)
Jul 19th, 2012 at 3:11 AM
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or it could just be that they're showing up because you were in contact with them... –  tiff  Jul 19th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
I mean I was in contact with them outside of facebook –  StupidGirl  Jul 20th, 2012 at 2:57 AM


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saw my whole family on the list...I thought they all stalk me but just found out yesterday that my dad didn't even remember he's got a facebook account....so I checked if these people are in my top 15 (assume facebook puts them in that order in my friend list) and found only 7 out of the 25 rotating people are in my top 15, and also 4 out of 8 (in the other friend box) are my top 15. Others are random
Jul 20th, 2012 at 3:20 AM
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check this out
http://abrax.us/Facebook/WhoViewsProfile.php
so....if we can rule out everything but the last two, does that mean stalking is it? –  StupidGirl  Jul 25th, 2012 at 6:36 AM


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i don't believe any of the boxes have anything to do with people stalking us, i think it is more random/interraction.
i have 2 CELEBRITIES in my friends i don't think they ever visit my page, but i visit theirs from time to time (once a week) and i like some of their posts, do not comment a lot.
i think the stalker thing is more wishful thinking from people.
Jul 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
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If you like people's posts, they can see who liked their fb status, and visit your page. Happens all the time.

I think top 6 is based on mutual interactions. Several people here have experimented making dummy accounts and visiting their original account, but not having the dummy account or vice versa show up on their timelines, until both visited their profile pages. Remains inconclusive I guess, but I still do think it's based more on mutual interactions than one sided at least. –  nameless  Jul 20th, 2012 at 6:49 PM


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NAMELESS sorry i don't believe any of these celebrities visit my page just because i have liked some status. i believe the lists are more about interraction, even former ones. if i have interracted with someone a lot even last year, FB will remind me of this person. it has nothing to do with people watching our walls recently.interraction is needed (liking posts, commenting posts ...)
Jul 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 AM
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This is interesting. My top 8, which I've only had one set--for a couple days, has split into 2. The first new set has 7/8 people of the old set, while the 2nd set has 5/8 people from the old set.
Jul 23rd, 2012 at 1:52 AM
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Between my experiments of not clicking on anyone's profile and avoiding chatting and other interactions for a week and then viewing crush's profiles after that, I am stumped. I didn't not find much change. All of the friends on my Keesh list went down. So I give up. Lol. there were a few things that happened after I updated my profile picture with a few people that made me suspicious however though. And I took someone off of my acquaintance list and put in with the rest of the friends and he immediately is in all of the top friends including chat box and I have not had much interaction with him... Also I took crush's name off my close friend list and put into normal friends and things pretty much stayed the same, except he moved one spot down in my Keesh list and i don't have any interaction with him except viewing his profile (in the past like a stalker lol and only a couple times in the past week of so)... so I dunno I think there is no way for sure to figure it out, but I will keep observing for fun.
Jul 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 AM
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I wouldn't worry too much about the keesh list. I'm pretty sure it's more heavily based on your interactions with others than vice versa. –  nameless  Jul 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 AM


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Top 8 box shows ppl:
1) people from your "close friends" list + family list
2) if you have no one put on your family list but they have you on their, they'll also rotate in 8 box
People form those two groups appear regardless of interaction between you and them. This is also linked with them being high on your keesh list

Now, as for the rest of friends that appear in the box and are not on your lists, my bet is it's mutual interaction, your stalking (but unless you do it for longer time, it changes list of your friends in 8 box for short period of time - few days), plus probably some of your friends who have recently view your profile (but they also will appear there for short time, few hours).

As for 6 box I have no bloody idea...
Jul 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 AM
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Both parties must confirm, in ordered to be labeled as a family member. It's not one sided.

As for top 13 rows.. I've noticed that interacting with people's profiles and status updates(especially liking, viewing photos, and commenting) move people up on your top 15 rows. I feel like special occasion life posts may be more weighed more heavily as well(wishing someone a happy bday), and they show up in the top 5 rows within minutes/hours--and sometimes for several days.

There are some people that are on my top 13 rows that I don't interact a whole lot with(but have in the past in some way via like/commenty), that have been moving up rows. So I wouldn't be surprised if some people are stalking me.

Other than that.. Top 8 is directly related to top 13 rows of friends. Nobody currently below top 13 rows of friends, will ever show on your top 8. Also, people in your top 5 rows are more likelly to show up on your top 8, than rows 6 to 13, and may even take up more slots in the top 8 as well(always the case for me, as of late.. Always getting 5-6 people from top 5 rowsshowing up at a time on my top 8..) –  nameless  Jul 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 PM
and may *stay for several days –  nameless  Jul 23rd, 2012 at 6:06 PM
move people up *a few rows, and very likely to bump them within the top 13 or up the top 5 rows, they are below that. –  nameless  Jul 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 PM
@nameless,
what are your thoughts for the top 6 box?

also, i feel like the keesh list is influenced more by who visits your profile, due to my own research with friends' pages.. –  sandman12  Jul 24th, 2012 at 3:25 AM
However, I DO think that the top 8 randomly cycles between people from rows 1-13(or at least for me. I don't know if rows are longer or not, based on # of friends. But something tells me it isn't, because top 6 has like up to 40 top people, and 13 rows X3 people = 39 people?), but again of course, for me, most of the people on the top 8, are people from the first 5. Still think the cycling is random though...

I havent' been focusing much on top 6 Lots of people here have claimed that people don't show up in their top 6 box, unless both parties have interacted with each other's profiles at a couple times. That sounds logical to me. I also think it's based heavily on friend's keesh list values.

The keesh list confuses the hell out of me.. It doesn't make sense to me when everyone jumps up in keesh values. That's when I feel like I can't take it seriously at times. Yeah, some people I don't interact with often, do show up somewhat high on the keesh list(not counting family members). So perhaps its mutual as well. –  nameless  Jul 24th, 2012 at 5:19 AM
My keesh list is so weird right now. It's some people I would expect to be high up there, but the rest seem to be all family members. Like random aunts and uncles that I don't interact with. Suddenly they're very high up. My top 6 box also cycles between two or three different groups (my top 8 box does too). And in one cycle, it only shows people in my top 6 who are in the top 20 on my keesh list! I'm convinced, because I kept track. It's so odd, because I didn't look at these family members' profiles. My keesh list updated to this family version today, but it's been going on in my top 6 for a few days now. Very odd. –  Athalia  Jul 24th, 2012 at 7:48 PM
for the 6 box, i think not necessarily both parties interacting with each others' profiles but messaging as well

i stopped viewing my crush's profile and he appeared in the 6 box less frequently but he still sometimes show up in the 8 box –  StupidGirl  Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:26 AM


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I now have 18 friends and it makes it easier to see patterns I think. My Friends list is only 6 rows. My bottom row is the three friends I friended most recently, and they stay on the bottom row but change positions. The rest of my friends move wildly up and down rows every time I refresh the page. So I don't know that the rows in the My Friends list means anything at all unless it indicates when someone has recently been online. I will watch to see when that bottom row changes, if it does. My crush is on my bottom row.

Now, my crush pretty much stays in my 8 box. And he is often in positions 7 and 8. He is never in my 6 box, and I have sent him 3 private messages, but we never like anything on each others pages or chat or anything like that. I try to limit how often I look at his page, or only look at it on mobile. His Keesh number continues to remain very high. And he is always on my 'short' chat list of 7 people- some of those people move off and on the list, but my top 4 keesh friends are always on there. Last week he was a suggested 'poke' several times a day all week long but has not been a suggestion since Thursday.

Interesting thing too about the mutual friend finder- if you x out all the suggestions, it will get down to no suggestions, then several hours later it will reset and I get a huge list of suggestions, most of them all from a single friend. I think part of the algorithm that drives the friend suggestion is how active the mutual friend is on FB in a period of time. It seems that for my page maybe the algorithm changed a week or more ago, or maybe it is just that I have x out so many suggestions now that it doesn't know what to do. If I don't x out any suggestions then the suggestions do change in what I think seems to a correlation to the visits by my friends to my page. I think the most active 'stalker' wins the friend suggestion contest in that time period, and I think it also has to do with the amount of time they are on FB relative to each other. I have one friend who says she looks at my page 'all the time', but I rarely get friend suggestions of hers- I think she just isn't online as much as my other friends, so her friends don't come up as suggestions. And the friend suggestions don't seem to be in regards to who is on your acquaintance or close friend lists either, I have tested this.

Anyway, I am convinced my crush is looking at my page a fair amount. But things are weird with us again so I have decided to stop worrying about it-let him FB stalk or not, I can't care about it anymore.
Jul 24th, 2012 at 4:27 PM
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i think the top 5 rows rotate a lot but always with the same people; however, since you only have 18 friends, it'll look random –  StupidGirl  Jul 25th, 2012 at 6:12 AM


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My question doesn't relate to the 6 and 8 boxes but to the top friends. I'd like to know if you think if a person b appearing in a low row in a person's a Friends list - allways around row 80 - could still be having a lot of interaction with this person, or could it mean that she doesn't uses fb much at all? Have you also noticed that some friends you interact with are far in your friends list ?
Otherwise, I can't give much of a contribution for the -who stalks you question- I think an important factor is the one of TIME, there is no way for us to know how actuall all these deductions allow us to be, aspecially having read somewhere that a girl still had an old best friends deleted account at the top of her friends list.
Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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Here's my observations:

I started noticing that my crush kept appearing both in my top 8 and top six (usually in the bottom right or top right corner) and I began to wonder why, considering it's supposed to be random. I view their profile quite a lot each day, so I was considering maybe it was my influence, but the strange thing is they went on holidays and had no access to the internet, and suddenly they didn't show up as much. Then when they did have access again and they were back, they were right back to being there all of the time. We do not interact much on each other's walls or via messages. The rest of the people in the box are always my closest friends or people I recently interacted with/people I interact with the most. I view my best friend's profile quite a lot but his isn't in my top 8 that frequently, no where near as much as my crush.
Jul 26th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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Re: the small box with six photos in Timeline, NOT the larger box with eight photos

I think that this small box shows six of your friends who are currently online. If you refresh a couple of times, and then compare who shows up in the small box with who has just posted and who is online in the chat feature, they seem to correspond. Also, certain people appear in the small box at regular times each day, i.e. when it is lunch break or 5 p.m. in their time zone, etc.

Additionally, I think that when a person looks at your post (i.e. mouses over it on the ticker or clicks on a link in the post) that person's photo will appear in the top left-hand corner of the small box. You can test this by seeing who is online and then posting something that will be of strong interest to several of those people. Do these folks immediately appear in the top left-hand corner of the small box?

Just some observations. Tell me what you think!
Jul 28th, 2012 at 6:17 PM
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Entirely possible that the 6 box shows people who are online (or recently online). I have also noticed that whoever shows up in the upper left hand corner of the 6 box often shows up in the top left spot on my friends list as well. And also sometimes that person shows up at the top of the three name list on the friend finder page at the same time. –  Athalia  Jul 28th, 2012 at 7:02 PM
I also agree, that there is peak activity, where some people show up a lot at certain times during the day. –  Athalia  Jul 28th, 2012 at 7:04 PM
I somewhat agree with WW - I think the top 6 friends boxes have to do with who is online, BUT i strongly believe that in order for someone to show up on your top 6 friends, they had to have viewed your profile at some point recently! –  sandman12  Jul 29th, 2012 at 7:03 AM
I agree about having viewed your profile, but I don't know about recently. For me it shows some people often who I know aren't looking at my profile, so it has to be a while ago and facebook just shows you those people because they have viewed your profile at some point in the past. –  Athalia  Jul 29th, 2012 at 8:32 AM
only people from the upper chat list!! –  StupidGirl  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 AM


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I must say that personally I am very interested in the twenty friends listed on the facebook news feed page under the "friends on chat" search bar. No matter how many times I refresh these twenty are exactly the same. What is interesting is that these are not only people who I interact with often, but there are also several who I never interact with (or even view) on facebook yet I am certain have been viewing my page. My top twenty includes my best friends who I do have a lot of facebook contact with and my ex (who admittedly I view frequently). However, there are people like my Cousin who I never view or interact with on facebook but I know snoops on me, several people who have very known crushes on me who I never ever view or interact with, a couple of my ex's friends, and interestingly an old friend who I never view or talk to on facebook yet when I bumped into her on a night out she started asking me how my holiday in Australia was despite the fact that I had not told her I was going, we have no mutual friends who could have told her and the ONLY way she could have known was by viewing my facebook wall.
I think these 20 need to be looked into a little more...
Jul 29th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
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And looking little deeper I noticed one of my best friends boyfriend of 3 years is high up on the list of 20 friends also despite the fact that we have absolutely no contact online and I cannot even remember the last time I looked at his page. This is interesting to me purely because his girlfriend (my friend) does NOT have facebook and the only person who posts online content and pictures about what she's up to while he is away at university is myself.
Luckily I'm quite good friends with him so I sent him a quick text explaining what I was trying to work out and asking him if he had viewed my facebook at all recently. He texted back and told me that he actually checks it most days to see if there's any new pictures of his girlfriend and to see how she's holding up while he's away.
Jul 29th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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List of 20 friends...you mean the top 20 rows on the friends list, or on keesh list or something else? –  Matt901  Jul 30th, 2012 at 1:21 AM
Something different. When Logged in allready go to the general "facebook.com" webpage. Scroll down and look to the left and under a search bar which says "Friends on chat". There should be a box with lots of different pictures in, 4 rows of 5... and just from the look of mine it is most DEFINITELY not random, nor is it people I talk to on chat, or people I openly interact with on facebook. It is mainly a mix of a few people I look at a lot and people who I suspect and who I KNOW frequently view my profile without any direct contact. –  Nicola1983  Jul 30th, 2012 at 9:53 AM


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Here is what I noticed:

I see following types of people in my top 6- top 8 lists. These are the people who almost always show up.

1. 3-4 girls who had crush on me in past but I have little or no communication with them anymore(at least not on facebook). Although I sometime open their profiles(may be once every 2 weeks)
2. 2-3 other people who I am pretty sure are pretty interested in my life. (I rarely open their profile)
3. Few guys who I worked with long time ago, but they were not my friends and there is no reason for them to be interested in me or my profile.(I never opened their profile)

Now, I can understand first two categories, but dont know why people on 3rd category shows up in my friend list.

I don't update my facebook page AT ALL, I don't comment and post any story etc. I only use it for chatting and sending private messages.
Jul 29th, 2012 at 5:15 PM
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On the Keesh list the #1 person never shows up on my top friends, but the #2 always shows up on at least one of the Top 6 or Top 8.
Jul 30th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
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How often do you interact with #1 and 2, including profile views? –  nameless  Jul 31st, 2012 at 7:58 AM


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I used a few of my friends' friend finders to check where their bf or gf were on the list, and for nearly all of them they were all within the top 3 rows along with other friends and a few randoms. I checked this against my crush on my own friend finder, and it's pretty much the same, she's never dropped below the 5th row but usually hovers between rows 1-4. Compares to some of my friends I don't interact with her that much at all over facebook, but she's there. She also makes the top 6 and top 8 boxes pretty much every day. The rest of the friends who make up the top 5 rows in the friend finder are people I interact with a lot as well as a few randoms who cycle in and out every day.
Jul 31st, 2012 at 2:24 AM
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Has anyone noticed that in the full friends list, after a dozens of rows or more, the list jumps down a line with only one or two person on a row, this seperates the list in different groups. DOES ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THIS MEANS ?
Otherwise I am definitely sure that people who appear on the 6 or 8 boxes are people who have recently been on facebook, and they are people with whom there must be some sort of interaction. –  marie  Jul 31st, 2012 at 6:55 AM
@marie: yes, although only on other peoples lists. Don't know what it could mean though. –  Athalia  Jul 31st, 2012 at 2:59 PM

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