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How do the 6 friends photos at the top of Facebook Timeline get choosen?
Why do certain friends seem to show up as one of the the six photos in the small friends list photo box at the top of Facebook Timeline? Are these the 6 friends people who have visited your profile recently or have been online recently? What is the reason for only seeing certain friends pictures in this friends box?
Dec 9th, 2011
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facebook pro
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SOOO surprised nobody has noticed this! You guys should not focus on the 6 friends list/ 8 friends list! You should instead pay attention to the whole "mutual friends list". You know when go to your friends timeline profile and see the whole list of your mutual friends. A month ago the list was updating three times a day. This is what i noticed. First list: People I have stalked and interacted the most with under a longer period of time. This list was consistent with my keesh list. Second list: People I have stalked and interacted the most with during the past few days and week. Third list: HERE the interesting part comes, this list was very different from the two others. For example, my dummy accounts ranking jumped HIGH. It even made my top 10 friends I think. It had been in the bottom in the two other lists. The rankings of the people I have stalked but who I know are not interested in me also fell drastically. Facebook have now again changed the algotrim so only the two lists are frequently updating, not the third one which showed who are stalking you. So I am 100% that I am right in this case. You should all pay attention to the "mutal friends" list and compare it to your keesh list. If people are much higher than their ranking on their keesh list it is possible they are stalking you. :) Oh I should also mention that I chose one of my best friends list as a testlist. We have 180 friends in common and she is also friends with my closest friends and the people I stalk. She is also friends with the dummy account.
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You may be on to something, facebook pro, but you have to have many mutual friends with the stalker in order to get any info. What do you think about the friends list order (main list of all friends)? Do you think that people who stalk you, whom you rarely interact with, will show up higher in your friends list? I'm starting to think so. For the person I "stalk", who is somewhat a celebrity and has over 1,000 friends (while I have around 100), I often show up in his top 20 rows of friends, and he is usually in my top 10 rows of friends. He is my #1 friend on my chat bar ("ordered friends") and keesh list. But why am I so high on his friends list? I shouldn't be if it has to do with only his interactions with me. He doesn't like or comment on any of my photos, shares or updates. I occasionally like his status updates, but he has other friends who like and post comments a lot more often, and they are not as high on his friends list. I'm assuming that he's high on my friends list because I look at his profile and photos quite often. He shows up in my 8 friends box at least once a week, but I've never shown up in his (I log in with my dummy account to check, because I'm paranoid I'll start showing up there!)
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on 2011 around november i noticed one of my senior spy cousin K is showing up in timeline 6 box again and again and she got the big picture in the yearly added friend list. it crossed my mind. she is lot older than me and it seemed pathetic that she is actually spying. so there i started the experiment to be sure. she was also under the mutual 3. then after 1 month a friend G added me and he replaced her position. and there was every reason G could stalk, actually he added me to stalk. but in the same K was frequently showing. But around feb 2012 facebook changed the equation for family member, it started to show all family member under mutual 3, and 6 box. and yearly friend box suddenly disappered months ago. so i got no way to find K is still stalking. and G was disappeared from under 3 arround march 2012, cause another guy H came into my ac, and i bliv we both stalk eachother. thats why he is still under mutual 3, frequently on top 6, on chat room top 4.
My point is, there is many guy may stalk me, but why only H is everywhere for such a long time!!?, cause i didnt responded to other stalkers and i am interested in H too. there is many one-sided stalker comes to my mutual 3, but goes away within 2-3 months, cause may be i didnt responded. but H is everywhere in my ac!!
and the 8 box thing is, it showed 2 stalkers ( or 2 close mutual stalker) around march and april in my ac, those lower 2 wasnt change their position. but after sometime fb changed top 8 box. i bliv it doesnt show any stalker anymore. i show only those stalkers who came to your ac for 1-2 times and went away.
and friend list top is totally bullshit count. i believe it never shows mutual interaction or top stalkers. it shows random friends with your family on top rows.
And view source code, presenceprivacy data helped me to get some stalkers for 1-2 day, then the code changed, it didnt consist of any id number anymore.
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facebook pro
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You may be on to something, facebook pro, but you have to have many mutual friends with the stalker in order to get any info. What do you think about the friends list order (main list of all friends)? Do you think that people who stalk you, whom you rarely interact with, will show up higher in your friends list? I'm starting to think so. For the person I "stalk", who is somewhat a celebrity and has over 1,000 friends (while I have around 100), I often show up in his top 20 rows of friends, and he is usually in my top 10 rows of friends. He is my #1 friend on my chat bar ("ordered friends") and keesh list. But why am I so high on his friends list? I shouldn't be if it has to do with only his interactions with me. He doesn't like or comment on any of my photos, shares or updates. I occasionally like his status updates, but he has other friends who like and post comments a lot more often, and they are not as high on his friends list. I'm assuming that he's high on my friends list because I look at his profile and photos quite often. He shows up in my 8 friends box at least once a week, but I've never shown up in his (I log in with my dummy account to check, because I'm paranoid I'll start showing up there!) Answer: Yeah that is true, if you want to know for example if your crush i stalking you you need to have a big "friends in common" with someone's list to get something out of it. And I do not think your own friendlist has anything to do who is stalking you. As someone mentioned before if you like anyones status etc. you will make it in their top 10 and vice versa. You can stalk people as much as you like and not show up in their top ten, UNLESS you have interaction with them o fb. I know this because I stalk a few people a lot, but never like anything and so on and I have never been high up on their friendlist, neither have them been high on on mine. My dummyaccount has also never been high up in my friendlist, it is actually always at the very bottom. Once I stalked a guy A LOT during a day, and twoo weeks later when fb updated the friendslists he got in my top 10 or 15 but only for a day, then he sank to his normal position, which is quite low. This has only happened to him I think.
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A Dude
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So a while back in high school my friend and I stole a yard flamingo and made it our pet. Recently i updated my timeline photo with this flamingo smoking a cigarette. Within the next two days everyone who had some significance with this flamingo showed up in my 8 friends box. The guy whom i had stolen the flamingo with also showed up for repeated days. He did not like or comment on the photo. Also I have not interacted with him in over a year.
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Portlandia
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That's interesting A Dude. I will also have people telling me (in person) that they liked a photo I shared on facebook, even though they never liked or commented about it on facebook, and their photo showed up in my 8 friends box at around the time I shared the photo. Does anyone know why certain people can show up in your 6 friends box over and over again, and you can comment and like stuff on their page, but they rarely show up in your 8 friends box? Does it have to be a mutual interaction--like, do they need to look at my profile or comment/like something of mine from time to time?
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nonickname
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People, i don´t know how the hell anyone didnt done a real study for revealing the algorithm behind facebook. A simple experiment could be done for helping solve that... 3 or 4 friends could do accounts and add each other and add the same friends, and stalking exactly the same choosen people for days INCLUDING EACH OTHER BUT ONLY ONE BY TURN FOR A MOUNTH (cause if the friends apears on the lists we dont know if it was for mutual stalking). For it work, the following instructions have to be respect: that always be the same number of visits and the same people, and never interacting with anyone, only the visits) and compare the results with each other. If the friend who are stalking the other friend in his turn apears on any of the 4 lists (6 in the box, 8 of the other box and the top of mutual lists and the top friends list) the mystery over, because we will know the person who are stalking... If the people that they are stalking apears in the same order of friends list or mutual list, them we assume that they show the people who we are stalking too. Im pretty sure that it could solve unless partially the algorithm and help the mankind, hahahahaha. But it have false positives too, cause it could work only for people who stalker without any kind of other interactions... and if u stalk the person too, we not be able to assume that if the person shows for mutual stalking...
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Hi, I've been following this question for a few months now and keeping an eye on my keesh list to see if I find anything strange. Theres this girl I was friends with on facebook who I know had a thing for me for a few years, well she deactivated her account and created a new one. I am aware of the new account, but I have not interacted with it at all. I noticed that her new account shows up VERY consistently in the top 5 under "Find Friends" (we have 8 mutual friends), and just yesterday I clicked to check my keesh list and she showed up. Now I am pretty sure that I haven't clicked on her name at all or viewed her profile etc. so this is a very interesting development.
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hi, nonick here, i had to get an account to answer more... i observe and interesting thing on the friends list: The people u recent add apears next to the last of the list, and the certain people that u chat too. I see that both in my profile and the girls that i add too... anyone check that too?
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Portlandia
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Re: the 8 friends always being from the top 50 friends...I don't think that's always the case because I showed up on the 8 friends of a guy I stalked for a day or 2 (see my reply to myself above), and I am not in his top 50 friends. But why do some people show up in your top friends anyway...especially if you rarely interact with them or view their page--and haven't done so recently? Some of the algorithm for the friends order must have to do with how often the other person looks at your page. And there are some people I interact with at least weekly who are near the bottom of my friends list. Also--I noticed that the guy I stalk (who's a celebrity) who used to show up in my 8 box A LOT has not appeared recently, although he's still far #1 on my keesh list. Maybe they changed the algorithm again. I am still around the same place in his friends list that I've been for weeks--row 20 (he has over 1000 friends).
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fb user
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Portlandia, u are in top 20 on celebrity's friends list, and where does he appear in ur friends list? jose, I totally agree with you. My crush is top in keeshlist, appears always in my 6, 8 boxes, friend finder , he is in the 3 list, , always in my top 5. But I appear at the very bottom in his friends list. Everything else is favorable to me except his friends list in where I am at the bottom . So its clear, I am stalking him a lot but he doesnt even look at my profile. But a strange thing is , in my top 5 , there is also a another guy whose profile I almost never visit, but I know he is stalking me. But he is not high in my keesh list, but sometimes in my 6/8 boxes.. so confusing.
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Teehee
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Jose, if that's the case, when i see the person being low on my keesh list, high on my friends list, and i see myself low on his friends list, can i draw the conclusion that s/he is a stalker? also, how does the 3-friend mutual friend finder fit into this theory though?
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fb user
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Two things we all have to confirm 1) Where do you appear in ur crush's friends list and where does he/she appears in ur friends list. If he/she appears on ur top 5/10 and you appear at the bottom of his friends list, I am sure he/she doesnt stalk you and only u are stalking him/her. Also, is there ANY case that u stalk a person's profile a LOT and he/she appears at the bottom of your list. I have read this entire thread again and again and many confirmed that they appear at the bottom of the crush's friends list. ( and they are stalking their crush profile) . It doesnt matter where they appear in your friends list. ( or as far as I know) . They appear in ur list based on your interactions with your other friends. so we dont have to take that in consideration. Just check where you are in ur crush's list. that will tell everything I guess.
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this is exciting, i gotta make an account for this...so the folks at the bottom of my friends list are the very people who stalk me the most, given that we have no interaction and I have never visited their profiles?
I checked the one who i suspect is stalking me (he showed up in the 3-friend mutual friend finder recently), and I found i'm in his top 3 rows of friends! lol and this is the first time i visited his page and he is not high on my friends list...
however i'm still confused about one thing, i recently added a person whose profile i checked out the most over the past week. we had public interaction and exchanged msgs, i even tagged her in my photo and she commented on it. however, she's not high on my list (near bottom). i just went to check her friends list. guess what, i'm always in the top 5 rows on her list. How does that happen? She is stalking me more??
lets just wait and see fb will ever change the algorithm again, if so, then we are down right on this again.
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fb user
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teehee, the first thing, you are another one to prove that u are high on ur stalker's friends list whom you never visited( who is at the bottom of your friends list) . Yes there is a possibility that he is stalking you. And it is not necessarily all your friends at the bottom of your list is ur stalker. Even if there is no mutual interactions, they also stay at your bottom of the list. Thats why I said dont look for them in ur profile. It again depends on ur interactions with your other friends. And ur second thing, yes, you are in her top 3 rows, because of her less interactions with her other friends. And she is not high in ur friends list because of your high interactions with your other friends. Can you confirm this
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fb user
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Also, if a friend appears again and again in 6 box, 8 box and u never interact with them is because they visited ur profile recently. ( not necessarily stalking). If they still appear for weeks and months and u never visit them, its mean they are stalking you. And check their friends list, u must be on their top friends list.
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VII
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I bet you guys, the ones that appear in your 6 boxes on your profiles are your stalkers. I met this few months ago and exchanged few messages over facebook and we went out two times. I wasn't really interested in her but she really liked me and wanted to get in to a relationship with me. Unfortunately it didn't work out for us and she moved interstate. That was 3 months ago and she still keeps appearing in my 6 friends box. Shes mostly there (not always). And I'm really sure she has been looking at my profile too often! On the contrary, I don't look at her profile at all! Which means I'm her crush and she's on my 6 friends box. One more case. I had a huge crush on this girl few years ago and kind of went going to her profile once a week at least. I did that for a year and it didn't work out for me. She didn't end up going out w me but I met her few months ago recently and told her about my huge crush on her! She felt really awkward in a nice way. I haven't checked her facebook for a long time now (months!!) but she keeps appearing on my 6 friends box. I bet she's been looking at my profile, photos, etc. Unfortunately, I've recently started going out w someone or else would've asked this girl out again. But I'm sure she's been checking my facebook. I've also noticed her facebook activities soon after I do mine. E.g. If I changed a photo/added something on my wall. She would do the same in a matter of 15-20 minutes later. Although amongst 6 friends box there are a mix of family members, people I interact w on daily basis too. So its a smart mix generated by facebook to keep us coming back!
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nameless
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I have a theory regarding interacting with other people's profiles. As many of you may have noticed, when you like or comment someone's status, within a few hours to a few days, you may see them rise all the way to the top 5 rows of your friends list(if they aren't there already). They will usually stay there for a day or for several days to a week, or even a few weeks. Then, if they are people you don't interact often with, they will retreat to your second set of friend rows for a couple of days, or right back to their original positions. However, I feel as if there might be some mutual interaction, from their part, to have them temporarily move up to your top 5 rows in the first place. For the past week, I've been liking and commenting more than a dozen people that I don't usually interact with on a regular basis, and I see them fill up my top 5 rows, until I see 1-2 people out of the 15 left that usually stay on my top 5. I've also been having several sets of top 5 rows on my friends list asas well(thus different sets of top 8). I think at least 3 different ones I can count on the top of my head. 1. I liked a muscians profile status(he has +4000 friends, and reguarly gets maybe a dozen likes or comments on his profile), and within a few hours he rose up to my second set of friends (which is row 6 to 13). I was fascinated to why he didn't rise up to the top 5 rows, while a vast majority of people I DID like/comment their statuses, did. A couple days ago, again I tested, and I liked another status update.. Within a few hours, I noticed he finally went up to my top 5 rows! 2. I added my mom on fb about 3 weeks ago, and I immediately shared a funny photo on her profile. I showed it to her a few days later(she doesn't always check everyday), but I noticed on my friends list, she still stayed all the way down on my friends list. 2 weeks later, I liked one of her photos, and I tagged myself in a family photo she uploaded a long time ago. But still, she didn't rise up to my top 5 rows, or even my second set of friends rows(for me, its rows 6-13, <--second set of top friends is different for everyone btw.. Depends how large your friends list is)! I don't know if she ever visited my profile, but this really is a strange scenario. These (at least two) different cases makes me suspect that, when you interact with someone on fb(mainly commenting and photos), they will bump all the way to your top 5 rows, but only after they've interacted with you somehow(either commenting or liking your commenting your status on their status/photo, or viewing your profile).
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AB
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Being in the bottom of your crush friend page list does NOT mean he/she is not visiting you.
I visit my crush's page about once a week and last wee i liked one of his posts and later sent him a message which he replied, and today I cheked his friends list. I'm on the very bottom, second to last row. Next I checked my list from someone else's point of view and he is on the very bottom of my list. He actually went down after our exchange.
There you have it.
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fb user
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AB once in a week is not even stalking I guess :) I consider that as a normal visit to a friends page. Again, I am not worried about top 5 on my friends list. It could be a mixture of people visiting our page more, the people who we stalk and family and other people who we have long time interaction and so on. What I am looking for is whats our position in our crush's friends list. Here , most of us want our crush to stalk us. :) so if we are in the bottom of their friends list, I think they are not stalking us. They might visit us sometime but not stalking us. For me, every other things like, 6 /8 box/ high on my keesh list/ always on my top 5/ always on 3 of mutual friend finder/ always on my chat list however I resize/ always on my mobile top6, all these made me think that he also stalked me, till I started noticing that I am at the very bottom of his list. I realized that all the above things are due to me stalking him a lot. He doesnt update much. But whenever he posts some pics , i mostly like his pictures and comment sometimes. He commented only onon my picture once in March ( and thats when I started stalking him severly.. :)). I know he likes me but not sure whether he is stalking me like I stalk him like crazy. I post lot of my pics and whenever I post something he mostly appears at the top 6 often the whole day. So he must be looking at my pics. But My question is , in spite of all the above favorable things for me, why I am all the way at his bottom ( like in his last row.. :( while he is always in my top 5
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cookie
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I believe a lot has to do with the cookies fb follows, fb tracks all of your cookies (of course, I know we all know that) but that linked with the specific ip it shows you your history combined with their history. So in my opinion our 'information' is distorted from the outset. Thàt combined with the fact if someone is equally frequent online as you are or much less or much more, also: distorted view. I can log into my bosses fb profile, he is quite a celebrity (not huge but has over 5000 friends, the top amount). So I have the privilige of checking out my own profile aswell as the one of my crush through my bosses fb profile. (and they are not friends and I only log into my bosses profile to check things like this out) What I see is that I'm still number one in his friend list whén I'm online on the same computer I use to log into my own profile. So when you have a dummy account, do not use it on the same computer and preferably not on the same ip adress and then maybe you have a shot at knowing how your profile looks in interaction with others. To me it sounds logical that when you have a dummy account and you use it to stalk yourself to check out the result, all you get is that you have the same ip adress combined with a set of cookies: so naturaly fb code is going to conclude, hey, they are top friends! (it could be your brother with an actual account but on the same computer, that would explain why it's not mutual from the very beginning but it would be after a while) Like where I work I've got about 50 collegues, all working on the same ip, and sure enough, they are all quite high on my friends list although I couldn't be bothered to ever visit their profile or they would mine) What I find is that going to a friends profile and go to his or her friends, you can see who they interact with most. If you come up on the first set of rows, that can be a sign you check out each others profiles, but in my opinion could even well be, that the two of you are online at the same moment. (ànd maybe check each other out)
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fb user
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Just now verified couple of my suspected stalkers friends list and It was totally shocking to see myself at their top 5 rows. They are at the bottom of my friends list. We never had any interactions in fb, no likes, comments etc..and . I never visited their profiles. Now, I am going to hide my friends list. it will be embarrassing if anyone else see my friends list with my crush on my top 5 always.. Now, I know why I am at the bottom of friends list. So frustrating now.
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fb user
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nameless and portlandia, my answers to ur questions above. If you have any actual interaction with your crush, rather than just checking out their page all the time, you might appear somewhere other than at the bottom of their friends list. But seriously there are random people who appear near the top of my friends list...and I don't stalk or interact with them! – portlandia I actually like most of his pictures and commented his pics couple of times. But he commented only once on my pic in March. I was expecting atleast to be in the middle of his friends list somewhere but not at the bottom row. You don't click on their photos or read their statuses via ticker on the right side? - nameless nameless, I always click on his pictures and he doesnt update much in his wall post. so nothing to read. Now, I strongly started thinking he must have put me in the acquaintance list. lol.. But I am not sure whether acquaintance listed people can get his updates because I always get his update. Also, there is a little girl who was sitting beside me in the last row suddenly went to his top 5. Not sure how that happened. Can anyone please let me know how to set up the ticker on the right side ? I am unable to resize the chat list too.
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Portlandia
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fb user - You can resize the chat list by just making the browser window smaller. The friends shown basically mimics the keesh list or the "ordered friends" list in the html code. I am starting to think that the 6 and 8 box have a lot to do with whom you have listed as "close friends" more than anything else. And the friend-finder 3 rotate people at the top of your chat/ordered friends list. Has anyone noticed that occasionally fb gets all funky and weird people will show up in your 8 box and at the top of the friends list for a couple of minutes and then go back to normal? I think for a brief it will show people you recently interacted with.
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fb user
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Anyone has any idea about mobile stalking/viewing ? How much impact would it create ?
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lila
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I've read almost everything that's been said here.I did my own little experiment,choosing a random friend as the subject of my experiment and here are the results 8 friends box: Displays the people with whom I have had some sort of public interaction recently,such as liking a post/photo or commenting on something.Proflie views do not seem to be a key factor to which friends are displayed there.( I have tested that by visiting subject's profile regularly,without liking anything or commenting on anything .He never appeared in that box.) 6 friends box: The way I see it,here's a mix of peple we view and people who view us,without necessarily interacting publicly.This means that either we visit their page or they visit ours,clicking on our links when they pop up in the newsfeed and vice versa etc. People who stay there for long seem to be the people we interact more,even in a "stealthy" way.It seems that what counts the most in this selection is mutual interaction,that's why sometimes we see people popping up and after a few hours or the following day disappearing from this box. (The friend I was viewing appeared in this box and stayed there for 24 hours.The following day,he disappeared and since he hasn't been displayed again.I can confirm that he never visits my page because he hardly ever uses fb for almost a year now) Friends List: I think this is the last thing one should pay attention to if they want to find out who their "stalkers" are.Being low on someone's list doesn't mean he/she doesn't visit you. It means that there are people with who he/she interacts more on Fb than he/she does with you.In this case,public interaction (likes and comments and not just profile views) seems to be highly weighed. ( My experiment's subject never made it to the top rows although I was visiting his page.Neither did I make it to his top rows.Obviously,profile wiews as such are not enough to climb up a friend's list neither is your position on one's list indicative of him/her visiting you or not. The people filling the top rows are just the people you usually interact publicly.) Mutual Friends List (when clicking the "Find Friends" option) : As some have mentioned before,I think here's the key to solving the "mystery".These 9-10 friends appearing recurrently indicate most likely our top 10 friends.In different words,the people Fb has estimated as our closest friends. People appearing there are usually listed family members/relationships and friends we interact with relentlessly. I'm inclined to believe that if you see 1-2 people that you do not give a damn about what they do on fb,and thus you rarely or never visit their pages,click on their links and photos or whatever and there's no sign of interaction on their part,these people are the ones who do "watch" you but try to keep it secret for their own reasons.AKA the so-called stalkers. To find out friends rank I think dragging the chat bar is enough.Drag it down and then slowly up again.You will see friends popping up one at the time and probably the order they pop up reflects their rank (1st person to appear is friend #1,2nd is friend #2 etc) I must add that fb's estimation of who our closest friends are is clearly dependent on our interaction (in any possible way) over a long period of time. This could explain the persistence of some friends' appearance,especially in the 6 friends box and in the "Mutual Friends" list. that's all :). I'm sorry for the lengthy post,and for expression mistakes (if any) :) i'm not a native speaker :)
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facebook pro
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The ones in the chatbox are the ones that have a cellphone on their chatbox, your messages will go directly to their cellphone. They are the ones that have installed fb on their smartphone, aaaaaaaah people are so dumb. And the reason why you see that "one person" everywhere (chatbox, mutual friends, friendfinder blablabla) are because YOU are stalkiiiing them. TRUST ME. I have had plenty of dummy accounts and stalked myself A LOT with them and they rarely show up anywhere. FB would not make it that obvious if people are stalking you. You just want to see that one person everywhere and when you do, you automatically think that they have been stalking you even though it is you that has been stalking them. And your friendlist has NOTHING to do with who are stalking or who you have been stalking, it is mostly based on interaction.
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fb pro
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hahahah loooooooooool people are getting aggressive here I'm just writing for fuuun take it easy! :DDDD Yes of course some stalking methods are taking into consideration, just not that much. If people are online you can see them on fb chat on the left side, otherwise it's only people who have installed fb on their phone. Just sayin that your own stalking of people will show a lot more on your fb than if people are stalking you.
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fb user
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yes.. mutual profile visits also brings the person to our top 5 rows. I visited a friend of mine couple of time this week for testing purpose and he didnt go to my top 5 those days I visited and today I think he might have visited me . All of a sudden he is in top 5 now and I am in his top 5. We were in the middle rows earlier. PS: I visited several other friends for my testing purpose and they are not in my top 5 yet.. I am still at the last row in my crush's profile while he stays at my top 5 all the time. I avoid any interactions with him carefully for last 15 days ( from sep 5) . Lets see whats going to happen. He is my no2 in keesh.
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QuestionableGoatee
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I thought I'd make an account to chime in on this. I've been reading everything people have been saying and can honestly say I've developed an un-healthy obsession with this all! An ex girlfriend of mine hardly ever uses Facebook, in fact the last time I posted on her profile was around six months ago but I viewed her profile now and again. After we broke up, I was looking at her profile more (I shouldn't have, but there we are) -- viewing it nearly 2 / 3 times a day, but we never spoke or messaged. Very last interaction was tagging a photo of her and I around 3 months ago. Keesh list : she'll be in around the 7th or 8th position (out of around 400 friends) Mutual friends : 8/10, she'll be in the top 3. In some cases, she's the top 1. 6 box : 1/4 refreshes will put her photo in the top 6 box on my timeline 8 box : since monitoring this, I've NEVER seen her picture in the top 8 box. Am I wrong in thinking that profile views alone shouldn't weigh THIS much? I'm not expecting to hear "This girl is stalking you!" but it hardly makes sense she's out-weighing friends that I speak to nearly everyday / few times a week.
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fb user
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I have stopped having any interactions with his profile for last 15 days and I already started noticing my crush NEVER showed up in my mutual friends list even after several refreshes . He used to be there all the time before. and now in my mutual friends list, I am seeing mostly my family members, and couple of friends I interact often and another friend who is interested in my life(stalker?) . But I dont visit her profile often. So i think mutual friend finder is showing both. Questionare.. profile visits 2 - 3 times a day also weighs more I guess. Because, I remember I used to do that and all these put my crush everywhere I see. Whats ur position on her friends list and hers on ur list.
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p
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i find its people i interact with and people that i stalk on fb that show up in the friend box.....end off.
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nameless
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Woah, this is ****ing weird... My old crush is no longer #1 on my keesh list! For days her value number was -5.81. Now all of a sudden, she dropped to #11 on my keesh list to a value of -0.98!! Some other people on my keesh list have switched around too, but hers is a very dramatic drop. I Also checked the source code. In ordered friend list, she's still #1, but in white list, she's #6. 2 days ago some girl on my white list who was #19, is now #1, but on the keesh list, she's only .50. I don't know her fb ID so I didn't check the ordered friend list.. I'll check maybe later. I don't like her and hardly ever interact with her. I wonder what happened... I mean for months since I found out about the keesh list, My crush was as high as -7.8, but was steadily dropping. Just last week she was -6.45(but sometimes it showed in the -5 area). Perhaps FB's algorithm of keesh values is only for a certain time period(couple of months), until it resets--but before it resets it gathers data or the last week or so and includes it after the reset? In terms of stalking.. I'm not visiting her page that often, and hardly click on her pics.. Not nearly as often as I did last spring. But days I do look at her page, I check 2-3 times that day. Just about 2 days ago, I liked a status of hers and even PM'd her. So I'm guessing it reset and took the most recent interactions.. It does make me wonder though, if keesh list really does include mutual interaction. I dunno.
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my crush is consistent in 8th slot on 8 box and also frequently in six box but he is in the middle of my friends list, also he is frequently appearing in mutual friends and number 1 in my keesh list.. is there any chance that he is viewing my timeline too?.. i'm viewing his profile for 3 to 8 times a day.. any conclusion about this? thank you..
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Anon
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How do people get into the 3 mutual friends and what makes them stay there if there's no interaction for a few weeks?
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fb user
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nameless,.. surprisingly, my crush also went down to 16th place in my keesh list. He was always in the 2nd place for last 6 months with a value of 6.9 something. I didn't visit his profile for last 17 days till yesterday. now his number is .65 1) He is not in my mutual friends list anymore ( thats another surprise). 2) He is not the first person when I search with his first letter in the search box. ( he always used to be the first) 3) He is still in my top 5 and I am still in his last row ;P 4) keesh list now he is in 16th place 5) he is in my 8 box every 2 days. 6) I dont know what happend, my 6 box is not at all refreshing when I try to refresh many times. there are other 6 other friends and they are static and never change I am just tired of all these. Its so pathetic. I am just going to let him go and let him come back if he wants. I put him under acquaintance and uncheck his news feed.
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Analyst
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I realized something when you use the "View as" Tool. You can see how your profile looks like to certain people. After keying quite a number of my friends names..and then clicking on the "Photos" tab, I have discovered that.. basically there are two kinds of views. Fyi, if anyone wna try this, you MUST have your tagged pictures privatized, meaning your friends should only see your photo albums that you have enabled for their viewing. 1) the albums view (this is generally what you and many others will see when u click on ur "photo" tab) 2) individual photos akin to "tagged pictures" but it is not as this shows all the individual pictures you have uploaded onto fb. At the same view, click on the "Albums" on the top right hand, and interestingly, it differs from those appeared to friends that is on point 1). To me, this is rather interesting and it makes me wonder why fb did this... my hypothesis - if you view as your friend and it shows point 2)... those are the friends who are stalking you and definitely browsed through your fb profile. Any thoughts? Do try!
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My person in question is blocked on feeds but is still #10 on the keesh list, in my top 6 regularly (anywhere between 2/10 and 5-7/10 appearances at different times of day, top 1 or top 2 when I search the first letter of the names, and still appearing in the mutual friends thing regardless of position on the keesh list. I don't think it makes a difference.
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jfsc
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So I've noticed that one of my friends sporadically disappears from the 14 friend boxes that appear on the right side of the networks we're in. When she reappears, the ordering of friends/pages/etc in the search bar is shuffled up, but returns to how it was before when she disappears from the network boxes again. Anyone else notice this? Not sure if she's the only one who disappears, but she's the only one I've noticed lately.
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annon
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I am glad I am not the only one who noticed the reset in the Keesh list, the algorithm must have changed. My stalker was always #1 but now he is way down on the list, but for the past week or so before the update I have had him on the Restricted List. He is back on my regular friends list now. It will be interesting to see how the Keesh ranking changes over time. I don't look at his page any more than I look at my other friends pages. Can we revisit the OrderedFriendsList in the HTML code--is anyone else noticing that it changes for about an hour, then goes back to how it was? Like my Stalker is generally always #1, followed by a friend who admits she creeps my page like crazy as #2. Well, over the past few days I have noticed that the order will change dramatically so that my #2 friend is #1 and my Stalker will drop down to the bottom 3 friends, and a few of my 3-5 will switch up as well (I only have 19 friends). Then within a couple of hours, maybe less, he is back as #1 and my creeper friend is #2 again. Has anyone else observed how frequently the OrderedFriendsList is changing? Sometimes the middle row of friends changes fairly often but not as dramatically. BTW, my Stalker and I have never liked anything on each others pages or had any mutual interaction other than stalking. He is always a suggested Poke unless I put him on the Restricted or Acquaintance list, and has not been in my top 6 box on the web version in months, not even if I add him to Close Friends. He is nearly always in my 6 box on mobile. The HTML coding fascinates me. Also, I do also think the suggested friends list is the stalker reveal, or at least it was if the algorithm has changed. During the time my stalker was on my Restricted list (and he could see nothing, I share nothing to the public) my morning would start out with other friends' friends as my People You May Know suggestions...but during the course of the day the stalkers friends would make their way up to the top of the list. This has happened every darn day for more than a week. A couple of times all my suggested friends have been his friends. I have not been stalking his page either.
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TheMiddle
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I am completely facinated by this thread and have been holding back posting but I just had to :) This may have been answered, but what possible explanations are there for a person to be popping up in both the 6 and the 8 friends list? I have "stalked" this person's profile quite often in the past month or 2, and have exchanged a couple private messages a few months back. But other than that and 1 or 2 likes from my end that's all the FB interaction we've had. He also shows up on my chat bar, and is on my 20 "close friends" list that FB has compiled for me on the html code (I did not add him as a close friend). I am not clear on the mutual friends concept, but FB does suggest me people that are his friends. He has over 2,000 FB friends so I never really show up on his top friends. So I guess my question is, is the reason he's showing up everywhere is because I check his profile or is he showing up everywhere because its mutual? Oh and just a little background, we met each other a few months back and I knew he was interested in me. I'm not sure if he still is, which is why I am curious about him popping up everywhere on my FB :)
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fb pro
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Some people have the same friend on the last box of the 8 friends box. The others rotate but that one stays there. It is the one that looks at your profile a lot. Pretty annoying and embarassing when it is you who keep showing up on your crushs fb. I watched his fb from a dummy account who I am not friends with on fb and neither is he. Thanks a lot fb. You think you can get away with this, but I noticed it. I dont understand how fb makes things so unbelivable obvious. Now i have to deactivate my fb because of this, it is the only way I will stop showing up there.
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Clueless
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My ex/crush/guy I stalked was always #3 or 4 on keesh and recently he dropped to #13... Well actually we are dating again... so I dunno and we started talking again through Facebook about 5 weeks ago... so... I dunno he is also and always has been near the bottom of my friends list, does not appear in my 8 box (except one random time a few months ago he literally appeared in it for like 30 seconds, I think that's what led me to this thread lol) but often appears in my 6 box. He is and has been one of my 10 on the friend finder. I know he wasn't on Facebook a lot over the summer and if he was he was using mobile. So I don't know WTF lol. Also since he dropped in the keesh list he does not appear in my chat list anymore. I guess it doesn't matter for me since he's back in my life. But it's confusing and annoying as hell lol. It could be possible he was stalking me the whole time we were not talking... but I will never know.
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Annon
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The HTML coding has definitely changed, and probably the algorithms as well...Now there is no longer a "CloseFriends" in the coding nor a "whitelist" of friends. And there is a bunch of new coding before the Ordered Friends List that was not there earlier this week. Now my Ordered Chat list is alternating between two very distinct orders, with another couple of random switches throughout the day. This has to explain why everyone's Keesh list suddenly got crazy. My #1 person who had been #1 since June dropped to #22, lower than people whose profiles I know I do not look at more than I look at his. So something changed. FB is on to our discussion here- things seem to change closely after someone points these things out here in our thread. They don't want us to be able to know for sure who our stalkers are so they keep switching things up.
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fbuser
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Clueless, How much did u stalk him and what is your position in his friends list now and at the time u were stalking him. I am just wondering how you were at the bottom of his list after all your stalking. And please ask him and that would resolve the entire mystery :))
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Oh yeah I want to add that my "crush" is the ONLY person that dropped or changed order in my keesh list. Everyone else is in the same order.
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fb user
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good info clueless.. Regarding my keesh list, almost everyone's place is replaced. My crush( who was at 2nd) went all the way down to 16th. Another friend who was at no1 moved to 5. Now 2nd place is occupied by a stalker. ( 100% sure about it). and even other places are also occupied by the persons that has a high possibility of visiting me often. Because I dont visit these profiles. Mutual friend list doesnt show my crush anymore. 2nd position stalker is always in the mutual friend list. so u can get the stalker from mutual friend list i think.
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Haha noticed I funny tonight. There seem to be some "random" people on my chatlist when i put it on offlinemode. One of them beeing my dummy account that I NEVER visit, hmm pretty obvious the offline chat mode is the people you stalk/ interact with and the people that stalk you.=)
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Sookerberg!
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There's two people I'm considered with. My crush (person a) and someone who might possibly stalk me (person b). Person A - I visit their profile a lot. I messaged them only a few times, but months ago. I never like or comment their posts. Person B - Never messaged, never like their comments, etc. Rarely visit their profile since they rarely update their profile, they do visit facebook every so often (I see their activity on ticker). Person A is always on my top 6. And once for one day was in my top 8, as one of those immovable non-changing friends in the bottom right corner. But only once. For a long time was high up in my top 20 friends chat box. But since a past few days alternates from being #1 on that list to not being on that list at all. Is always on the mutual friend find list. Person B - Only sometimes in my top 6. Like on some afternoons on an occasional day of the week. And then gone. Now has started appearing on the end of my top 20 friends box chat list, which is weird since I've never messaged them on chat. This seems to suggest that Person B tends to stalk? But I care more about Person A. Discuss.
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A friend
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Facebook knows what you're up to, and they are in full control. You will never figure anything out, but they want you to keep trying, since I reckon they get paid every time the ads load
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